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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:00 AM
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Bill Maher-Recalls are for Cars, Not California Governors
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 09:02 AM by realFedUp
Los Angeles Times
July 24, 2003

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-maher24jul24,1,2626362.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

COMMENTARY

Recalls Are for Cars, Not California Governors
When did the Target parking lot replace the voting booth?

By Bill Maher
Bill Maher is host of HBO's "Real Time With Bill Maher."

July 24, 2003

New rule: No do-overs. Once you elect an official, unless he runs off
with public funds or gets caught with kiddie porn, you're stuck with him.

He's the governor, not some dude you married in Las Vegas.

What's going on here in California, if you're lucky enough to not have
been following this, is that the economy turned, so we're getting rid of
the governor. But what if we drive him out of office and the economy
still doesn't get better? I guess we'll have to burn him. And if that
doesn't work, we'll kill his dog.

-snip-
Maybe he's a lousy governor, but he was the one elected by voters who
bothered to show up at the polls. Their efforts shouldn't be undone by disgruntled shoppers signing a petition on their way out of Target.(great line)

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mike6640 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:05 AM
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1. HA!
:kick:

gotta love that guy's wit. I have been seriously considering getting HBO added to my subscription so I can watch his new show.
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:21 AM
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2. recall question
How does a recall only need around 1 million signatures in a state of 35 million people?
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:40 AM
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3. Information on the recall
http://www.igs.berkeley.edu/library/htRecall2003.html

The first step in a recall effort is the circulation of recall petitions. The process begins with the filing of a notice-of-intent-to-recall petition written in the proper legal language and signed by 65 voters. Once that is accomplished, the recall petition can be circulated in earnest. Petitions for the recall of statewide officers must be signed by voters equal in number to 12% of the last vote for that office, including voters from each of five counties equal in number to 1% of the last vote for the office in that county. Petitions for the recall of state legislators must equal in number to 20% of the last vote for the office.

The recall ballot has two components: a yes or no vote for recall, and the names of replacement candidates, selected by the nomination process used in regular elections. The recall measure itself is successful if it passes by a majority. In that case, the replacement candidate with a simple plurality of votes wins the office. If the recall measure fails, the replacement candidate votes are ignored.

The language in the recall provision is strictly procedural. Substantive grounds for recalls are not specified. Recalls can be launched to remove corrupt officials, and to remove officials whose policies and performance are found wanting. The recall is but one of several mechanisms for removing public officers. Others include the normal the criminal process, impeachment, term limits, and, of course, the next election.

The recall law underwent some "streamlining" changes as a result of the passage of Proposition 9 in November 1974. The changes included a new 160-day limit on signature gathering (there was no time limit previously), and the new provision for immediate recall petitioning. Previously, there was a six-month waiting period to initiate a recall petition against a statewide elected official (five days for a legislator). Now, the recall procedure can begin immediately after the election of the recall target.

Recall provisions are summarized in Procedure for Recalling State and Local Officials, issued by the California Secretary of State's Office and revised in 2003.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Constitutional & Statutory Basis
Recall in California is provided for in the state Constitution and in the state Elections Code.

Constitution of California, Art. II, Sec. 13-20.
California Elections Code, Div. 11, Recall Elections.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:49 PM
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7. I wonder how many of these Davis recall sigs are forgeries?
Just asking
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:50 AM
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4. I really like that Bill Maher is stepping into the fray on this!
He's making total sense!

:kick:
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FuseONE Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 01:12 PM
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5. .
You should get HBO, his show is usually very good.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 05:43 PM
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6. Welcome FuseONE
to DU.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 06:19 PM
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9. Hi FuseONE!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:54 PM
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8. I never miss it
I have watched Maher for the last 5 yrs, his show, now on HBO is the best, Even with Ann Coulter on it, cause he usually lets her dig herself in deep.

I also went out and bought his book, "When you ride Alone, You ride with Bin Laden."

I can't wait till tomorrow, when he comes back on HBO after a 10 wk, hiatus. MAHER RULES!!!
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 03:24 PM
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10. Kicking
the first version after lockig the dupe.

Dirk - DU Mod
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