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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 07:58 PM
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2008 GOP Field Disappoints Some Conservatives
NBC News

No bona fide social conservative among the '08 Republican favorites

WASHINGTON - A year ago, few could have predicted that the three front-runners for the Republican presidential nomination would be a U.S. Senator who favors embryonic stem cell research and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, a governor who twice campaigned on defending abortion rights, and a former mayor who not only supports gay rights but moved in with a gay couple -- and their pet Shih Tzu -- after the breakup of his second marriage.

But after the Republicans midterm losses, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani have emerged as their party's presidential favorites, according to public polls, GOP insiders, and Washington pundits. And stunningly for a party that has championed conservative social issues -- like opposing abortion, banning gay marriage, and restricting embryonic stem cell research -- not one of these front-runners is a bona fide social conservative.

"There is no George W. Bush in the field," says one neutral GOP strategist, referring both to Bush's wide appeal in 2000 and his conservative views. That worries some on the right.

"Right now, we're very concerned about it," says Paul Weyrich, chairman and CEO of the conservative Free Congress Foundation. Adds Charmaine Yoest, vice president for communication at the Family research Council, "There is a certain lack of excitement at the moment."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16041817/

Anybody giving odds on Sam Brownback taking the GOP nomination in 2008? With these 3 turkeys splitting what passes for the Republican post-Neanderthal vote, old Sammy could sneak right in there and walk away with the prize.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:01 PM
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1. I agree -- and on the other side, Obama, Edwards, Clark ...
Gore, Clinton ... BE AFRAID, GOPers, BE VERY AFRAID ...

*teeheeheeheehee*
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:02 PM
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2. We'll disappoint them even more in '08 when we kick butt again.
I'm ready to ruin their party.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:05 PM
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6. Me too!
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:02 PM
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3. Please Please PLEASE choose Romney...
That guy won't even be able to win his own state at the rate he's going.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:06 PM
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8. The Minutemen wackos are disgruntled with Mitt's hiring of the illegal migrant worker too.
As if his Mormonism wasn't already too much for them to swallow.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:18 PM
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10. Not a prayer. He's been AWOL for three years greasing the skids for '08
Mitt is going nowhere, unless the illegals doing his lawn care rally for him.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:04 PM
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4. No shit. When the knuckle-draggin' types are relegated to Mitt and Newt, you know
things are not going so well for 'em. They were hoping for Macaca or Sans-scrotum.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:06 PM
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7. Sans-scrotum
LOL!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:04 PM
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5. The really pathetic part will be...
when McCain realizes that he whored himself out to Bush for 8 years and he still didn't get the nomination.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:08 PM
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9. How The Arrogant Have Fallen
The GOP used to beat the drum of fiscal conservatism--so tight with a buck that people suffered and the economy tanked. Eisenhower had 3 or 4 recessions himself, leading to the Baby Boom.

Now the party is lousy with fascists trying to promote little robots of identical behaviors all worshipping the party line. Totally unAmerican. And anti-social Darwinian. Designed to make the smallest number of people feel like full-fledged citizens, to designate poverty and misfortune as not only crimes but retribution from God above. Can there be anything sicker?

This started with Nixon. He got Billy Graham suckered in, and Billy brought votes with him. Together they founded American fascism, picking up where McCarthy left off.

And now we have war crimes, attrocities on a level not seen in this government ever.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:19 PM
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11. CNN slurring again
The CNN newsreaders are telling about the distinguished republicans like McCain, Rudi, Newt and all the rest of the crowded field who are running. BUT THEY ARE slurring the democrats again. After they tell about all the viable republican candidates they say and we can't list the democrats but there are dozens of them running. DOZENS...only one is really saying the are going to run and he is the governor of Iowa (I think) can you believe that.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:19 PM
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12. Only Newt Gingrich can satisfy this crowd. Run, Newt, run!
Newt is a Republican's Republican. Only Newt can save them. Go Newt!
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:30 AM
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13. Brownback might win the Primary
But not necessarily the presidency. If we are judicious about OUR choice, we will lock up 2008.

We need another Clintonesque candidate, one with a bit less of a libido...
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:34 AM
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14. Here's what angers me to NO end about all this.
Edited on Tue Dec-05-06 10:35 AM by HughBeaumont
"There is no George W. Bush in the field,"

Like Lancelot Link is some kind of be-all, end-all Reaganesque figure, meant to be placed on a pedestal and recognized as the epitome. The election was won because of his name, his father, the media, the oilmen, the corporations, electoral fraud and the Sew-preme Court. I resent the fact that it's a given Bewsh attained his position because of accomplishment, likability and his political skills.

It's pretty sad if THAT . . . is what conservatives call "raising the bar".
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:07 AM
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15. Like the Cheerleaders on the Losing side of the field for 6 long years
They yearn for the glory days not realizing a paradigm shift has occured. The American People have found out those past 3 so called victories at the pols were in fact...the result of theft and lies/cheating...

The GOP has sullied itself silly....and now they looking for a Hero/Knight to take the Palace by Storm?? Nay..they will not for they Cannot. Their Philosophy is Fucked and so are their peeps..
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 02:13 PM
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16. no problem.. they'll get the social conservative as the VP nominee
and stuff low level but key posts with social conservatives.

We havent stamped out these people yet.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 02:28 PM
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17. Oh noes, is the people gtting sick of the culture wars?
Edited on Tue Dec-05-06 02:28 PM by Odin2005
I feel bad for the Talibornagains, NOT! :nopity:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 02:33 PM
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18. "There is no George W. Bush in the field," says one neutral GOP strategist
Hell they should be celebrating that.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 06:35 PM
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19. The only reason I am totally against Brownback even coming
close is that with the electronic voting what if he cheated and won? This country would be ruined forever and maybe the whole earth. For me it isn't worth even the slimmest chance.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:25 PM
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23. Or Hagel
Isn't he tied to one of the major voting machine companies?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 06:41 PM
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20. let's hope the GOP is too stupid to nominate Chuck Hagel
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 06:56 PM
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21. That gene pool
has been drying up for some time now. I knew they were in trouble when they tapped junior.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:24 PM
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22. A year ago Felix Macaca was the front-runner
n/t.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:30 PM
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24. Too bad Satan is unavailable - even he might be too moderate
re: "There is no George W. Bush in the field,"

Meaning: no one stupid enough to say whatever they are told to say
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