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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 07:12 AM
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Bill Clinton's Bipartisan Love-In
I think he is a gifted speaker but borders on being a Republican. He definately was a corporate suck-up on important issues, during his Presidency.
In fact I think they hate him because he "out-Republicaned" them.

* Signed Sr. Bush's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nafta">NAFTA
* Signed the Telcom Act
* "Welfare Reform"

Bill Clinton's Bipartisan Love-In Blows Up in His Face

"After providing President Bush cover for his disastrous handling of Katrina, after trying to get himself adopted by George Bush, Sr., after giving Laura Bush the keynote slot at his Global Initiative Conference, after going along with Rupert Murdoch's fundraiser for Hillary -- after all that, he got exactly nothing."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/bill-clintons-bipartisan_b_30141.html
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 07:18 AM
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1. I have long said this very thing, and....
have taken many lumps for it over the years.

I agree with this and I feel vindicated.

There is no more "bi-partisanship" possible, my friends. None, whatsoever. This Clinton example should be all the nay-sayers will need to get their heads out of the sand and into reality.

TC
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 07:19 AM
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2. Let's pretend all of us are executive vice presidents sitting around
a huge conference table in the penthouse office suite.

If we do that, and become introspective instead of defensive, we will "get it".

We must learn from our mistakes.

FOX lurred Bill Clinton with the same dangelling carrot that Bush I and others have.....to what end?

Clinton and other right of center Democrats need to come home.

We have a war within our own shores, and it is for the soul of this country.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:46 AM
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7. right of center Dems are like unfaithful husband porking every
$2 hooker they can find, but can't figure out why the hookers aren't faithful to him.

Meanwhile, his wife and mother of his children waits at home, wondering how she's going to pay the bills since he gives his paycheck to the floozies.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:11 AM
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3. Indeed.
I think I will have to nominate this. Arianna isn't fooled unlike the participants in the weekend long lovefest here.

"Oh, Bill..." "BigDawg, how manly you are..."
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 10:40 AM
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8. Oh, yeah, Arianna - Ralph &Newtie's girl - she ought to know!
It's always dangerous to take your cues from one source only.
Not saying some of the things said here are not true and relevant. I voted against Hillary in the primary and I am angry only 100,000 people did so.
It's just that the overwhelming acrimony NOW grates.
I waited a long time for him to speak up on 911. He did. Extremely well. To use THIS opportunity to bash him - in the name of Newtie's poster girl - doesn't pass the smell test. Or the good taste.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:34 AM
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4. You're right...he stabbed Dems in the back
With his GOP-lite policies. He did more damage to FDR's New Deal than all the Republican presidents before him, combined.

His sucking up to the Bushes never failed to make me retch. :puke:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:35 AM
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5. Not everyone sees things equally though
Clintons strategy of listening to all sides and avoiding partisan language gives him more credibility than any partisan that attempts to belittle that effort. When he does fight back against an unfair attack more people take note and give it weight, thats why this is big news. And it should be useful for other Democrats to build on his argument as well.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:30 PM
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13. Well said.
Thank you.

That difference is what makes Bill Clinton a great statesman and the BushCorp gang nothing but a bunch of smarmy, lying thugs.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:41 AM
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6. give us a break
republican propaganda has its way of sneaking in through all cracks and crevices
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 10:43 AM
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9. sucked up or
i think he did what he to do to get anything done. i think he sucked what he had to to get what he needed. it was suck, or do nothing as president. put yourself in his shoes. fight or suck. would you have a lifelong dream come true, then shoot yourself in the foot? or would you suck what you had to suck. we all like to think that we would fight to the death. but most of us compromise when we can. that is what humans do.
he fought for the things that mattered to him. and on most of those, he won.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 10:51 AM
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10. Hilarious
"More specifically, what can Bill Clinton learn? That the bipartisan love-in he's been engaged in over the last several years has resulted in jack-squat."

This from someone who was engaged in her very own "love-in" with the extremist radical right wing (hell she was MARRIED to it) like Clinton could ever have been.

"In fact I think they hate him because he 'out-Republicaned' them."

They impeached him, remember..???
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:05 AM
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11. They will never figure out that we are a happy family
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:43 PM
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12. Whatever compromises Arianna has made doesn't make Clinton's any better
Yes, Arianna is guilty too, but that doesn't change the truth of what she is saying here:

". . .All of Bill Clinton's tireless "bipartisanship" has been of no benefit to him, of no benefit to the country, and has only benefited George Bush and the right-wing.

I'm glad the Chris Wallace interview is flying all over the internet, but I really hope that one person who will watch it over and over again is Bill Clinton. And that on the fifth or sixth viewing it might occur to him that the more cover he gives Bush and his cronies, the more they're able to increase and entrench their power. Power they use to destroy everything that Clinton purports to stand for."
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