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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:10 AM
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"The Abuse Can Continue"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/21/AR2006092101647.html

"Senators won't authorize torture, but they won't prevent it, either.
Friday, September 22, 2006; Page A16

THE GOOD NEWS about the agreement reached yesterday between the Bush administration and Republican senators on the detention, interrogation and trial of accused terrorists is that Congress will not -- as President Bush had demanded -- pass legislation that formally reinterprets U.S. compliance with the Geneva Conventions. Nor will the Senate explicitly endorse the administration's use of interrogation techniques that most of the world regards as cruel and inhumane, if not as outright torture. Trials of accused terrorists will be fairer than the commission system outlawed in June by the Supreme Court.

The bad news is that Mr. Bush, as he made clear yesterday, intends to continue using the CIA to secretly detain and abuse certain terrorist suspects. He will do so by issuing his own interpretation of the Geneva Conventions in an executive order and by relying on questionable Justice Department opinions that authorize such practices as exposing prisoners to hypothermia and prolonged sleep deprivation. Under the compromise agreed to yesterday, Congress would recognize his authority to take these steps and prevent prisoners from appealing them to U.S. courts. The bill would also immunize CIA personnel from prosecution for all but the most serious abuses and protect those who in the past violated U.S. law against war crimes."

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:13 AM
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1. GOP- the party of torture
Used against anyone who doesn't salute the American flag. What a slap to freedom.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:15 AM
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2. well, gee
"But the senators who have fought to rein in the administration's excesses -- led by Sens. McCain, Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) and John W. Warner (R-Va.) -- failed to break Mr. Bush's commitment to "alternative" methods that virtually every senior officer of the U.S. military regards as unreliable, counterproductive and dangerous for Americans who may be captured by hostile governments.

Mr. Bush wanted Congress to formally approve these practices and to declare them consistent with the Geneva Conventions. It will not. But it will not stop him either, if the legislation is passed in the form agreed on yesterday. Mr. Bush will go down in history for his embrace of torture and bear responsibility for the enormous damage that has caused."


Is it time for you at The Washington Post to stop simply complaining after the fact, and stop carrying water for this tinhorn tyrant as he collapses America before our eyes? Damn. Just damn.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:22 AM
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4. The GOP is the party of torture
Torture first, ask questions 2nd. I've never been more ashamed of my country.

They have no reality. We're torturing Iraqis who never harmed us while W is kissing the Saudi prince whose country had the majority of 9/11 bombers?

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:27 AM
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7. And he's damned our country to be immoral
I am so ashamed that so few fought back.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:22 AM
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3. The devil gets his way - again
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:24 AM
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5. Yes, torture of innocents is good
when they never harmed us. I'm so ashamed of our government.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:26 AM
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6. Help me please
These "special" prisoners they are sure of are a threat to our nation, so they HAVE to torture them to prevent an emanate attack?

So, they KNOW these bad guys KNOW something but they don't know what that something is, so they terrorize and torture them until they get this information?

The ambiguity is ok, because mr bush knows they know.



Me thinks I woke up a stranger in a strange land.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:37 AM
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9. Sean Hannity was pushing for tearing off Saddam's nails
to get him to tell the where abouts of WMDs. We've got a legion of bushbots who will allow torture on anyone W suspects. We've lost our country. The bushbot scaredy cats have taken over.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:35 AM
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8. And tomorrow....some new outrage from the devil-chimp...
Like he's going to start killing all the animals on the planet just for the fuck of it.

Almost daily, we are presented with a new unbelievable horror from BushCo Inc.

How much longer do we have to put up with the pyschotic little asswipe.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:39 AM
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10. Right now he's just intent on wiping out the Iraqis
He is assaulting our animals and environment daily.
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:42 AM
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11. Why aren't they asking the Question
What will we tell our Children? How often did we hear this about Clinton over his bj?
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