!?!?!?!? AHamilton in The Federalist CONDEMNS GEORGE W BUSH

[bobbieinok]

http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa84.htm

The Federalist No. 84
Certain General and Miscellaneous Objections to the Constitution Considered and Answered
Independent Journal
Wednesday, July 16, Saturday, July 26, Saturday, August 9, 1788


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..., and the practice of arbitrary imprisonments, have been, in all ages, the favorite and most formidable instruments of tyranny. The observations of the judicious Blackstone,1 in reference to the latter, are well worthy of recital: "To bereave a man of life, or by violence to confiscate his estate, without accusation or trial, would be so gross and notorious an act of despotism, as must at once convey the alarm of tyranny throughout the whole nation; but confinement of the person, by secretly hurrying him to jail, where his sufferings are unknown or forgotten, is a less public, a less striking, and therefore a more dangerous engine of arbitrary government." And as a remedy for this fatal evil he is everywhere peculiarly emphatical in his encomiums on the habeas corpus act, which in one place he calls "the BULWARK of the British Constitution."2

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NOTE--"... but confinement of the person, by secretly hurrying him to jail, where his sufferings are unknown or forgotten, is a less public, a less striking, and therefore a more dangerous engine of arbitrary government."

[Jack Rabbit]

1. Hamilton isn't my favorite founding father

Nevertheless, he made many good points in his time.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

2. Oh we have moved so far beyond that kind of ideology

that I doubt we will ever get back to it.

On Edit: Or at least not in my lifetime.

[valerief]

3. It's a good thing the King doesn't read. Well, except for some

Shakespeares. If he read this, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be befuddled, and his favorite lady Karly would have to translate it. Too many big words, you know.

[lvx35]

4. Yep.

Any real patriot at this point is a radical at heart, a revolutionary. Anything else is both obedience to tyranny and disobedience to God.

[Vogon_Glory]

5. It's Fun To Needle Wingie-Dingies w/Federalist Papers, BUT

I admit that it's great fun to needle right wingie-dingies with the Federalist Papers, especially the more obnoxious reactionaries who boast about their belief about "strict constructionism" and other right-wing shibboleths, but it doesn't work as well as I'd like. Usually when you flatten some right-winger's point or other with something from the Federalist Papers written by Hamilton or Madison, their knee-jerk reaction is to say that such passages have been "misinterpreted."

Yeah, right. Sure :sarcasm:

Somewhere in my upbringing, I was taught that if I lied like some of these self-described G*d-fearing "conservatives," I'd be incinerated by a thunderbolt hurled by a wrathful J*h*v*h, with an eternity in eternal Hellfire to follow.

I'd recommend a trip through The Federalist Papers for all aspiring Democrats, especially in these times.

:patriot:

[Usrename]

6. He calls him a despotic tyrant..

I am shocked.. NOT!

[happydreams]

7. K&R

[Generic Other]

8. From the School of the Obvious

We really don't deserve to have any freedoms if we aren't willing to fight harder not to lose them.

[Marrak]

9. Wow...did you find that on the internets?

Great piece written in 1788...
K&R
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