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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 11:48 PM
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WP: 'Shiite Giant' (Al Sadr) Extends Its Reach
Edited on Wed Aug-23-06 11:49 PM by wellst0nev0ter
KUFA, Iraq -- Pumping their fists in the air, the men and boys inside the colonnaded mosque shouted their loyalty to Shiite Muslim leader Moqtada al-Sadr. "Hasten the coming of the Mahdi!" thousands chanted in the baking sun of the open-air mosque, summoning the central religious figure of Sadr's movement. "And curse his enemies!"

Booming loudspeakers outside the mosque echoed the devotion of Sadr's followers converging for Friday prayers last month in Kufa, the cleric's spiritual base outside the Shiite holy city of Najaf. "Moqtada! Moqtada!" martial male voices intoned over the loudspeakers in rhythmic cadence with the footsteps of the gathering worshipers. "Even the child in the mother's cradle cries: 'Moqtada! Moqtada!' "

Sadr's followers answer as one when his movement calls them, and his organization of social, religious, political and military programs -- as well as the young clerics, politicians and fighters around him -- has become the most pivotal force in Iraq after the United States.

Millions of Sadr's supporters turned out in December elections to give his movement the largest bloc in parliament, which in turn put him in control of four government ministries. Thousands of male followers abandoned their homes and jobs when a bomb destroyed a Shiite shrine in Samarra on Feb. 22, rallying at Sadr headquarters on a night and day of retaliatory bloodletting that plunged Iraq into sectarian war.

While opposition to the U.S. military presence in Iraq remains one of its core tenets, the Sadr movement's militia, called the Mahdi Army, took heavy casualties in two military uprisings against better-armed, better-trained U.S. forces in 2004. Today, according to Sadr leaders and outside analysts, the movement is husbanding its strength and waiting for American troops to go.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/23/AR2006082301647_pf.html
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 11:57 PM
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1. Are these the guys who will stand up....
So the U.S. military can stand down?

If not... who are we waiting for to stand up? Not the Sunnis... not the Kurds... who else is left?

(snip)
"Today, according to Sadr leaders and outside analysts, the movement is husbanding its strength and waiting for American troops to go."
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 04:41 AM
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3. And regardless we can't tell the players with or without a scorecard
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 04:41 AM by MADem


Top U.S. officials and leaders of the Sadr movement both say many of the gunmen claiming to be in the Mahdi Army are increasingly operating outside Sadr's control. Nouri, Sadr's brother-in-law, and others blamed rogue elements and impostors for escalating killings and kidnappings since the Samarra bombing. Many of the attacks since July have focused on driving Sunnis from predominantly Shiite neighborhoods of Baghdad.

"I will say that evil exists in every sect and every place," Nouri said in the interview at his home in Najaf. "And also good exists. Just like with the Jews and the Christians, it is so in Islam.

"They might be gangs claiming to be the Mahdi Army and doing these bad things. But they don't believe in the doctrine, they only do what they want and wear clothes of the Mahdi Army. They do not follow the guidance of the leaders," Nouri said. "They are exposed when there are orders from the high command to sit and do nothing and still they do their acts. Anyone who is not following such orders from the Sadr office is not a member of the Mahdi Army."

"After the Samarra bombing, it seems there were major reprisals organized for large part in Sadr circles," said Hiltermann, of the International Crisis Group. "Moqtada himself was very clear no revenge should be taken. It's not clear whether he was simply not listened to, or was giving a double message -- one to the outside world, one to followers."

Unable to figure out Sadr's militia or approach him on political terms, Americans have been frustrated in their hopes of reining in the Mahdi Army, as well as the Badr Brigade.

"It would be a whole lot easier if these armed illegal groups had a coordinated structure with a clear headquarters," a Western diplomat in Baghdad said last month in response to questions about why no progress had been made on U.S. and Iraqi pledges to disband the militias. Ultimately, Hiltermann said, the Mahdi Army, as well as the Supreme Council and both groups' Sunni rivals, need only bide their time, until growing opposition to the war among the American public brings U.S. troops home......

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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:30 AM
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2. What The Hell?
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 01:31 AM by wellst0nev0ter
This is a front page NEWS article that was posted TIMELY. Why the hell was it moved from LBN? A Mod has some 'splaining to do. . .
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:28 AM
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4. Good point.
This is really LBN news. On the other hand.....it's not so bad that news ends up here. I go to this forum 1st of all, every day. The news does not move downstream as fast as the LBN.

But the article itself is not an editorial.....it's news.
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