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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:38 PM
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Gen. Odom: Reverse domino theory may be playing out in Middle East
Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 03:40 PM by RedEarth
Gen. William Odom says Vice President Cheney has it all wrong when he warns that the U.S. must stay in Iraq because failure there could prompt collapse elsewhere. In fact, now it looks like a new Arab-Israeli war could be breaking out precisely because our actions in Iraq have emboldened Iran and Syria.

By William E. Odom
diane@hudson.org

Recently on national television, Vice President Cheney warned that withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq would prompt the collapse of governments in other countries in the region, namely Pakistan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia, putting them in the hands of radical Islamist rulers. Cheney has it exactly backwards. Our continued entanglement is what is destabilizing the region.

The escalating conflict between Israel and Hezbollah and Hamas could become a new Arab-Israeli War. And it is precisely our actions in Iraq that have opened the door for Iran and Syria to support Hezbollah and Hamas actions without much to fear from the U.S.

Cheney’s assertion is a new version of the old domino theory which was invented to justify the U.S. military involvement in Vietnam. Were the Communists to win there, it was claimed, a series of other countries in Southeast Asia would also fall, like dominos, to the Communist bloc, making China extremely powerful and menacing. Laos and Cambodia did fall, more or less, to China's sphere, while Vietnam stayed with the Soviet Union. But the larger U.S. aim, the containment of China, was achieved, in spite of the United States, by Soviet and North Vietnamese actions against China. And the dire consequences of the domino theory that were so widely proclaimed by hawks at the time never came to pass.

We should have learned a number of things from the Vietnam War, but most of all that unintended consequences are often the most significant outcomes. Our well-intended policies in Vietnam soon rendered the United States incapable of accomplishing anything positive in the region. Massive use of American combat power justified all of the extremism that North Vietnam used in pursuing its course, and most important, it removed all doubt about who could claim the banner of "national liberation" in Vietnam. The Saigon government was soon seen as no more than America's lackey. Thus withdrawal from Vietnam actually improved America's strategic position for turning the tide against the Soviet Union, beginning during the Carter administration and accelerating during the Reagan administration.

In the succinct language of military strategy, strategic withdrawals often involve tactical defeats but open the way to counteroffensives and "strategic success." The domino theory, invoked to avoid "tactical defeats," can easily obscure the wisdom of a strategic withdrawal and instead pave the way to "strategic defeat." Is the domino theory valid for the Middle East? No, not any more than it was in Vietnam. But a reverse domino theory is. The longer the U.S. stays in Iraq, the more likely the collapse of the secular regimes in those Muslim nations, and the more likely a full-scale war between Israel and its neighbors. It’s American departure from Iraq that could prevent it.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:46 PM
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1. The two notions are not really contradictory.
One the one hand, the invasion has been very destabilizing, and on the other hand, when (not if) we exit, the instability (which we are now holding back) will be free to run its course.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 08:42 AM
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11. not that instability is that hindered in its course now...n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 06:04 PM
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12. True, But the Potemkin governement in the Green Zone remains., nt
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:48 PM
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2. k'd and r'd
There are many of us here who've been saying this for years.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:49 PM
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3. It is impossible
TO unbalance a region without causing an imbalance of power.

If this is or will be a WWIII we caused it in 2003. History will judge it so.

Saddam may have been a really bad guy, but his enemies were our enemies. And I am sure, he was more afraid of these groups now causing trouble in the Mid-East than we are here in the US.

Frankly, Stalin was a real, real bad guy. What is the difference between him and old Saddam??

I know - we have atomic weapons now, isn't it???

General Odom is a good man. He is a good writter, too.

Joe



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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:04 PM
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4. Stalin was much worse than Saddam Hussein.
I don't want to defend Saddam, but you have to keep some sense of proportion, of the scale of the evil done.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:18 PM
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5. Boy, are you right.
Sure puts this in perspective.

How could that bastard be our allie in 1942-45 with a straight face.

And Saddam be our enemy in 2003??

Boggles the mind, that kind of justification.

They had to do that to make this war "work", you know.

I know what Stalin did - Killed some of my family - so, I have no good feeling for that alliance. I do know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend - that truisim. And he killed it.

I don't like Saddam, but I am an American first - just as our parents were in 1942.

We killed the bastards that could have killed our enemies,

I really think that is the deal.

Joe



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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:55 PM
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7. They are all assholes, they drag us into their stupid wars.
And then pretend that they are doing it for us.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:57 PM
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8. YOU BET!!!
Not their kids fighting.

Joe
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:48 PM
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6. recommended - #5
excellent article
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 11:49 PM
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9. "Just you wait..."
Democracy is right around that corner we're turning because the insurgency is on its last throes because we're making progress even though it's hard work, incredibly hard.

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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 03:48 AM
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10. Iran and Syria
well understand we have a compromised military in Iraq. We have no draft and thus we are a paper tiger. There's a statue of an infantryman at the entrance to Fort Dix with these words under it, " The Ultimate Weapon."
The fact is Bush, Rummy and Cheney have made us more vulnerable. This will stop when the countries that keep loaning Bush money for his misguided policy say no.
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