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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:55 AM
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Bush Tries to Deceive Us About Deceiving Us
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Bush Tries to Deceive Us About Deceiving Us

Margaret Carlson

Nov. 17 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush pushed back hard against his critics in a Veterans Day speech at the Tobyhanna Army Depot in Pennsylvania.<snip>

There's been no Senate investigation exonerating the administration on prewar intelligence. The Senate investigators specifically kicked the question of the who and the why of intelligence failures down the road as too politically radioactive.

With the speeches, Bush changed course from his earlier defense that everything he believed was right to everything he believed was wrong, but, hey, who wasn't fooled? He also contends that everyone saw everything he saw and then concluded (rightly) as he did that Saddam had to be taken out. But the Congress never has access to the intelligence that the president has. <snip>

"You can't distinguish between al-Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror," Bush said in September 2002. In a speech in Cincinnati in October 2002, he said American intelligence had learned that Saddam had trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poison gas in camps in Iraq. In February 2003 the president said, "Iraq has provided al-Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training."

The documents released by Levin show that Bush's Pentagon intelligence operation, the Defense Intelligence Agency, didn't believe those statements at the time and said so -- at the time.

"Everyone" didn't know that the DIA had concluded that the source of this information, an al-Qaeda military trainer out of Afghanistan named Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, wasn't in a position to know what he was saying about Saddam. Not only did he lack authenticating details about weapons and locations, he was ``intentionally misleading the debriefers'' in an effort to retain their interest in him, the agency said. He was hoping to buy his way out of detention with information. <snip>


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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:00 AM
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1. Who Ever Would Have Believed That Things Would Come To This?
And really, the fun is just beginning. Dang!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:05 AM
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3. This will produce a lot of new books! :-)
:-)
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:01 AM
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2. A lie to cover a lie
Keep digging W .... keep digging!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:37 AM
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4. the Animal House defense
"You f**ked up. You trusted us."
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