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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:12 PM
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BBC: White phosphorus: weapon on the edge
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4442988.stm

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The debate about WP centres partly though not wholly on whether it is really a chemical weapon. Such weapons are outlawed by the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) to which the United States is a party.

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"No it's not forbidden by the CWC if it is used within the context of a military application which does not require or does not intend to use the toxic properties of white phosphorus. White phosphorus is normally used to produce smoke, to camouflage movement.

"If that is the purpose for which the white phosphorus is used, then that is considered under the Convention legitimate use.

"If on the other hand the toxic properties of white phosphorus, the caustic properties, are specifically intended to be used as a weapon, that of course is prohibited, because the way the Convention is structured or the way it is in fact applied, any chemicals used against humans or animals that cause harm or death through the toxic properties of the chemical are considered chemical weapons."

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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:21 PM
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1. I don't know what they mean by "on the edge"
It is a horrible, cruel, inhuman weapon. The very fact that the US military denied they were using it shows they are well aware that by using it they behave as Saddam did. No matter that it is, in terms of technical nicety, legal if used directly against enemy combatants - it is still disgusting to use it at all. And to use it in an urban setting where civilians are certain to be involved just makes it even more atrocious.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:39 PM
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2. The idea is
that it is technically not a chemical weapon, but its use in Fallujah made it one.......so although the US is technically OK, the actually usage of the weapon is not OK.
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:46 PM
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3. Yes
but that doesn't make it okay. We can't let them get away with such sophistry.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:24 PM
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4. No,
It's not OK, but it is how this administration spins its atrocities.

It's just another war crime to add to the list.
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 06:05 PM
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5. Chemical weapon burns (warning, graphic):


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