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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:34 PM
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Lawsuit Threatened Over Wilson Affair (How Freerepublic used by GOP Liars)
Lawsuit Threatened Over Wilson Affair

By Cliff Kincaid | November 8, 2005

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.....While Vallely's charge was becoming a hot topic on the Internet, it was recalled by some writers that one popular site had reported a comment by historian Victor Davis Hanson that he, too, had heard Wilson identify his wife as a CIA employee, also in a Fox green room exchange. But Hanson tells Accuracy in Media that he never heard Wilson make such a claim and wants to set the record straight.

The disputed Hanson comments about Wilson and his wife were reported on Free Republic.com. A posting by "FReethesheeples" had a detailed account of Hanson supposedly saying that Wilson had identified his own wife as a CIA employee.

The post declared that "Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an 'off the record') I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee. Victor Davis Hanson…said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same 'Green Room' before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative. I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast."

Hanson told AIM, "…I don't know who that was at a table or where, but most everything he repeats about a supposed conversation is inaccurate. I did meet with Joe Wilson in the green room of Fox in 2003, and he did talk about himself and his wife ad nauseam, but he didn't disclose she was a CIA agent, and for most of the time he was introducing himself to David Corn and discussing writing something for the Nation."

(snip)

http://www.aim.org/aim_column/4158_0_3_0_C/

(emphasis added)

Poster comment: In my opinion, the freerepublic.com is being used to disseminate out-and-out lies. My opinion is that it is being used by GOP operatives, possibly at the direction of Fat-ass Karl Rove. Look at the past dirty tricks: 1) The (successful) sliming of CBS over the reporting on Bush's AWOL episode, coming at a critical time (CBS was about to run a story on the Niger forgeries; there was a big election at hand); 2)Swift-boat liars, in my opinion, had a clear connection to freerepublic. Shortly before the election, a Swift boat rally was called by a poster on freerepublic. But then he came on and posted, "We have been ordered to stand down." IOW, the rally was cancelled b/c some higher-up had told them to cancel it. Who was giving orders to the Swift-boat liars??? 3)The new lies that Vallely is telling about Joe Wilson are seemingly being disseminated by Worldnet Daily (not exactly a reputable news source), and by freerepublic. 4) See above: someone on freerepublic claimed knowledge that Victor David Hanson had "been told in the Fox green room, by Joe Wilson, about Wilson's wife's job." As you can see, HANSON HAS REFUTED THIS STORY COMPLETELY. IT IS CLEARLY A LIE MADE OF WHOLE CLOTH. Notice the freerepublic connection.

My opinion: Karl Rove and his assistants use Freerepublic the way they use the college republicans--to disseminate lies which will hurt those they perceive as their enemies. Therein lies Rove's "genius". His "genius" consists of CHEATING. It's easy to be at the top of your class when you CHEAT.

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:46 PM
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1. of course. why do we think Rove visited them at crawford for a "job well
done".

because they are doing a job.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:33 PM
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3. Yeah, he's their boss. Although, I think if I were a freeptard, I'd
have come away with a T-shirt that said, "I visited The President's Homeland, and all I got was Karl Rove."
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:48 PM
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2. Then you also must realize other sites are used.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 06:49 PM by dogman
He once used the stolen letterhead of a Dem Senator. He could just as easily have a version of Jeff working on the other side of things.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:38 PM
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4. Perhaps, but freerepublic is like the standard-bearer.
It has 4, count 'em, 4 spin-off sites. I'm talking about sites that can directly trace their lineage to freeptardville--though each of the sites emphatically asserts that they are not friends with freeptardville.

It's one thing when a site is used to promote traditional activism, as is done here, but it's quite another when a site and its members are used to do dirty tricks--such as the theft/forgery you mention in your post (which occurred, of course, before there were political websites). Hello, you know, regular people go to jail for stuff like that! It must be quite a thrill to the sheep on freerepublic that they can apparently do dirty stuff and not go to jail because their boss IS the law.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:58 PM
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5. and don't forget that Jeff Gannon used the forum too...
....to pass his lies. He posted right there as a freeper, bragging about his seat in the WH press room.

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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:26 AM
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6. The Free Pubic lies? No! Come on - are you series?!? NO TEXT
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freesqueeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 03:37 PM
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7. Like I Once Heard as a Younger Man...
You can't rape the willing.
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