Cindy Sheehan: (Not) Supporting Hillary

[Wilms]

Published on Sunday, October 16, 2005 by CommonDreams.org

Supporting Hillary

by Cindy Sheehan

I would love to support Hillary for President if she would come out against the travesty in Iraq. But I don't think she can speak out against the occupation, because she supports it.

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Prove that you are "passionate" and reflect our nations' values and refusal to support imperialism, greed and torture.

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Sen. Clinton is in California today to raise money for her political campaigns. An invitation to one star-studded gala reads:

"We must stand with Senator Clinton as she stands up for what we believe in. Hillary is and always has been our champion in the White House and the Senate." And she's one of the "strongest, most passionate and intelligent Democrats."

I didn't get an invitation to any of the events, but maybe it's because she doesn't stand up for what I believe in.

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http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1016-20.htm

[jrthin]

1. I'm with Cindy on this one. n/t

[elehhhhna]

19. Me too. n/t

[bluestateguy]

2. Then don't nominate her

That is why we have primaries. Fight the good fight, stand up for what you believe in, get behind your favorite candidate. But I firmly believe that once the primaries are over, you shut up, sit down and support the party nominee.

[electropop]

14. Sadly, I agree.

I don't like Hillary because she is Repugnican-Lite. But that's better than the Repugnican heavies we have now. I won't support her in the primary, but I will stand by my party in the election. Realistically, it's all we've got.

[tatertop]

3. I must agree

I hope Hillary waits this one out.
Once a candidate is chosen she should
throw her weight that way.

[hiley]

4. quite a few comments on her diary

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/15/153641/60

[damntexdem]

5. I'll vote for Cindy for president before I will for Hillary.

But who among the Dems with any chance to run is able to offer any leadership?

[AndreaCG]

7. Even board favorite Wes Clark is not going to withdraw

Though I hope he would be able to get some of his preconditions to withdrawal in play, like the UN entering the situation.

[grace0418]

20. I'd vote for Cindy over most people. She has REAL leadership

ability and more integrity in her baby toe than most politicians combined.

[longship]

6. I stand with Cindy.

As long as Hillary does not change her current position, I stand against Hillary.

[Raster]

8. I will not vote for ANYONE that supports the immoral war in Iraq.

I have several lines in the sand, and this is one of them. The negative repercussions from the Iraq fiasco will be felt by the United States for years to come. It is time to say our mea culpas, swallow our pride and ask the international community to help us out of this mess. And I mean out completely. Anyone that wants my vote better be saying the same thing.

[hiley]

9. I won't either, Raster

Completely is right.

[gulfcoastliberal]

10. Recommended. No support for pro-war, imperialist "dems".

They are neo-cons posing as dems. That's just my opinion, but any dem that continues to support using our military in non-defense roles aren't true democrats IMO. Democrats that continue to think that our soldiers dying overseas based on a pack of lies is ok, after said lies ahve been thoroughly debunked are anti-American.

And Hillarys biggest source of campaign cash is the throughly criminal Citigroup.

[Larkspur]

11. I agree with Cindy on this issue

Hillary wants to increase the size of the Army but she doesn't want her kid to suffer like Casey Sheehan did. Hillary is a major hypocrite and her political ambitions are stronger than her moral duty to this nation.

[goose4739]

12. Cindy is so correct

I'm numbed as I watch Monkey Boy on television stammering away about the "progress" in Iraq and the constitution to install its puppet government. Meanwhile, this country is growing weaker, poorer and more disspirited. The tide is turning -- Iraq means nothing to the American people except death to their sons and daughters. And Hillary is playing the middle when she should be using her position to speak out.

[YOY]

13. but Hillary is standing for important issues!

Like violence in video games. :eyes:

[Tom Joad]

15. Speaking of pro-war imperialist dems...

Listen to Pelosi on this issue.
She does nothing but ask Bush (yes, bush the idiot) to tell us his plan for withdrawal. Refuses to join her Bay Area congressional colleagues in calling for timetable for withdrawal.
Pathetic. Beyond Pathetic.

Hilary and Nancy. Pro-war, pro-occupation. From Iraq to Palestine.
Cindy wants an end to occupation, in both Iraq and Palestine. So of course she would not support Hillary.

[Larkspur]

25. Nancy voted AGAINST IWR

Being Minority Leader means she has to build a concensus on big issues like Iraq and it's obvious by how Dems voted on IWR that concensus is difficult to reach.

[meganmonkey]

16. Mmmm Hmmmm...

You tell her, Cindy :patriot:

[CoffeeCat]

17. The Republicans are the ones pushing for a Hillary nomination...

...just like they pushed for a Kerry run.

Don't get me wrong, Kerry was a great candidate and he would have been a stellar president.

However, the Republicans knew that they could smear and destroy Kerry with lies. They had the Swift Liars salivating in the wings and they couldn't wait to launch their attacks.

Same with Hillary. They'll drudge up her old scandals, remind everyone that her husband's DNA ended up on a dress and they undoubtedly have new scandals waiting in the wings.

They can't wait to run against Hillary!

I hope we don't fall for this! I do not want ANYTHING to do with her!

I will stay home, before I vote for Hillary!

[Demeter]

18. I Think Hillary Is Confusing Democrats With Republicans

With Republicans, the "name" is everything. If you have a "name" you get money, support, press, votes, and power, even if you have demonstrated no justifiable ability to channel these into rational public policy.

With Democrats, "Show Me" is the operative phrase. Show me you give a care about me, and those even worse off. Show me you can read a report that involves facts and figures from reputable professionals, and act in a timely and professional manner to improve the world, or at least a good portion of it. Show me that you aren't in it for the money, the spoils, the bench-warming, the abuse of power.

Poor Hillary! The voters have been spoiled for all time by President William Jefferson Clinton.

[Andromeda]

21. It's Cindy's right to support whoever she wants to.

If Hillary isn't her cup of tea that's okay. Personally, I only agree with Cindy in part.

I don't agree with everything Hillary stands for but there are a lot of candidates I like that I don't agree with on all issues.

I'm not a one-issue voter and the assumption that Hillary supports imperialism, greed and torture is not accurate. She voted for the IWR, not for pre-emptive invasion of Iraq. Now that we're there a lot of Democratic Senators think we need to withdraw from Iraq in the proper way. More troops would stabilize the situation in two ways:

1. Reduce terrorist attacks.
2. Give the Iraqi's more time to strengthen their security forces.

Wes Clark says the same thing and I trust his judgement on military matters.

This constitution isn't going to make the citizens in Iraq feel more secure. You still have the radical islamic factions to deal with and that creates many civil rights problems for women and moderate Iraqis who just want to live their lives in peace. They just don't feel safe.

In many ways it's no different for them now that Saddam is gone. They just have a different set of problems to deal with.

[roguevalley]

22. With Cindy's moral authority, it will harm Hillary if she decides to

campaign against her or refuse her support with principles. She is a moral force on our side and as the shit hits the fan, even more so. I couldn't vote for Hillary. She has too many sides to her positions.

[Andromeda]

24. Cindy believes what she says and has the...

courage of her convictions but that doesn't make her right on all issues.

Hillary may or may not choose to run but if she does I'll give her the same consideration as any other candidate.

[Carolab]

23. As usual, I'm with Cindy. NO to Hillary. n/t