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veracity Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:21 PM
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About Those Nuclear Attack Speculations
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=69
About Those Nuclear Attack Speculations

Some rumors eventually prove to be accurate foreknowledge. I hope that this one turns out to be silly paranoia spawned by someone (me) who gets too much email and worries too much!

We hear it every day from our government officials: “It’s not a matter of if, but when!” This phrase of course referrers to the domestic nuclear terrorism that our government tells us in inevitable. Naturally when our our government tells us this we have to respect their words. But when similar information is sourced to independent media the “conspiracy theory” tag is immediately applied. Let’s all hope that we can look back at this note and tag it as well meaning alarm and not as foreknowledge.

Before I fill you in on the information rumor mill regarding supposed upcoming nuclear terror let’s keep a few things in mind:

1. The US government is warning us that a nuclear terrorists attack is imminent. It is just a matter of time.
2. Nuclear weapons have only been manufactured by governments; with the US government being the most prolific producer.
3. The above 2 facts should lead you to realize that nuclear weapons do not get used without some kind of government involvement. Governments are the only entities that have the ability to manufacture nuclear weapons and they have always been in complete control of these weapons.
4. The fact is that no nuclear device has or will ever go off without the knowledge of at least one government that has a nuclear weapons program. We all know about the official nuclear capable nations and we all know that Israel is the unofficial nation to have nuclear capabilities. What is taking place, as was the case with Iraq, is that Iran is being set up as a nuclear threat in the event of a nuclear terror incident. Iran is not a nuclear WMD producer and if they were their technology would be so primitive that they would not be able to produce a small nuclear device that can be delivered by a terrorist. Nations do not jump from having no nuclear capabilities to producing the state of the art miniature nuclear devices. It just does not happen. Only the Soviet Union, the US and Israel would have that capability at this time. Perhaps some of the other nuclear nations can produce such devices but it is unlikely. What is surely unlikely is that Iran can produce them Keep that in mind.

More background: Any president worth his salt is supposed to try to make the citizens feel safe and secure. George W. Bush and his PNAC warriors have done nothing but try to keep us frightened to death. Without even trowing a rock, by keeping us scared, this administration has terrorized the citizens of out nation and of the world. They are terrorists by virtue of the fact that they keep us in a continual state of fear. George W. Bush and his PNAC handlers use fear as tool to garner support for their otherwise unacceptable agenda. Any time they want to go after some person or some nation they raise the country’s fear factor in relation to that person or nation to unrealistic levels so that Americans are frightened enough to permit the administration to do anything and everything to protect us. All this occurs even though the rationale for the fear is unfounded.

As professed by the members of the Bush administration who have taken part in the agenda of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), events the likes of “Pearl Harbor” can frighten the people of this nation into supporting even the most radical agenda of their group. It is the old adage of being protected from a perceived enemy that is at play here. Even though issues such as environmental pollutants pose a far greater risk to the lives of Americans, the perceived threat posed by the media crated bogey man known as the terrorist, is being used to scare the people into supporting Bush the “Protector.” Operation Northwoods is a perfect historic documentation of this strategy. This operation was designed to utilize the fear factor to garner support for unnecessary military interventions. Operation Northwoods was a government plan to conduct false flag terror operations on our own nation and blame these events on a foreign country; in this case the country was Castro’s Cuba. The US planned to conduct state engineered terrorism which would then be blamed on Cuba. The result of this operation would be public support for protection by any means necessary against a perceived threat (Cuba in this case). This is not a new concept, and has been used for centuries. Hitler’s self inflicted Reichstag Fire is the perfect example of such state sponsored terrorism. Of course the example are numerous. . If the 9/11 researchers are correct in their suspicions those attacks served as a perfect example of a false flag operation. It had motive, means and response all fitting the blueprints for such a scheme.

THE RUMORS: I get a ton of email each day. I also read a great deal of news from a many sources. What I am hearing these days is very frightening, although it is VERY difficult to believe. It is for this reason I do not post all my information on the main web site. However I do want to share some of the chatter because if any of this information is accurate I want the real story to be heard BEFORE any official cover stories get out.

I repeat this is all chatter…none of which I can corroborate. There is quite a lot of information coming in so I will share some of it with you.

Read the full blog....with the information....
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=69


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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:26 PM
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1. That's some scary shit
Hopefully it's one of the million rumors that gets invented every day.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:35 PM
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2. Will Bolton have his recess appointment by then?
I think that is a necessary piece.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:50 PM
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3. Point's One and Two are true.
But it does not make point Three true.

So far, point three is true. But I'd hate to be there if it's ever proved untrue.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:01 PM
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4. where are the exercises being held?
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 08:02 PM by wli
and does anyone have dates?
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:11 PM
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5. Wish it had a more precise date , but heres the link.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:16 PM
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6. One big difference
is that we know ahead of the planned simulation exercise. This negates their usefulness as cover.

The 9-11 and 7-7 exercises only became public knowledge after the deed.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:17 PM
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7. not true, the Tripod exercises were announced in advance
Merely in an obscure forum.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:18 PM
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8. that page is taking forever to load (maybe gone)
Do you have anything of it saved?
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:20 PM
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9. I found it from a link in the OP article. Just went there a few minutes
ago. Seems to load okay for me now too.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:20 PM
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10. I finally got it loaded, but it doesn't mention other sites
Only seven counties in NC. I'd expect broader geographical distribution, e.g. one nuke in Oregon, one in NC, one in Michigan, etc.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:22 PM
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11. also, is there a name for the exercises? e.g. Tripod III or similar?
Military sites discussing it may be googlable.
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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:33 PM
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12. Exercise to focus on nuclear terror scenario
That's my blog you guys are reading. Here is more info.

Exercise to focus on nuclear terror scenario


http://www.northcom.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.showstory&storyid=C9BFBBAC-F3CA-BD2E-008C7B34AFE33114

FORT MONROE, Va. -- Here’s the scenario…A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it. Is this really a possibility?

Joint Task Force Civil Support (JTF-CS) here is planning its next exercise on the premise that this crisis is indeed plausible.

Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV’s response to a nuclear detonation.

Some of this year’s objectives for SR05 are to refine nuclear incident Concept of Operations, produce a CM Operation Order, refine command post set-up procedures and maintain situational awareness of multiple CM incidents.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:47 PM
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13. do we know of other exercises being held around then?
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:50 PM
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14. What about 9/24 in D.C.?
When the big anti-war protests are scheduled . . . they might be afraid it would be too obvious, but it might be tempting.
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