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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:12 PM
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Climate Signals ("perversely"-Bush wants more science)


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/19/opinion/19thu1.html?pagewanted=print

May 19, 2005
Climate Signals

Hardly a week goes by without somebody telling President Bush that his passive approach to global warming is hopelessly behind the times, that asking industry for voluntary reductions in greenhouse gas emissions won't work and that what's needed is a regulatory regime that asks sacrifices of everyone. He's heard this from his political allies here and abroad - from Tony Blair, George Pataki and Arnold Schwarzenegger, to name three - and now he is hearing it from the heaviest hitters in the business world, including, most recently, Jeffrey Immelt, the chief executive of General Electric.

Mr. Immelt runs the biggest company in America, and for that reason some environmental groups hailed his speech last week on climate change as a tipping point in the global warming debate. Mr. Immelt chose his words carefully and did not directly criticize Mr. Bush. But he left no doubt that he believes mandatory controls on emissions of carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas, are necessary and inevitable. And he said he would double investments by G.E. in energy and environmental technologies to prepare it for what he sees as a huge global market for products that help other companies - and countries like China and India - reduce emissions of greenhouse gases.

Mr. Immelt's speech is not the only sign of impatience among Mr. Bush's business allies. In New York, two dozen leading institutional investors managing more than $3 trillion in assets recently urged American companies to address the risks of climate change and to invest more heavily in strategies to reduce those risks. They met under the auspices of the United Nations Foundation and Ceres, a coalition of investors and environmental interests.

Perversely, the administration insists that all this voluntary activity will eliminate the need for a national strategy. Yet these gestures represent only a small slice of the economy; industry as a whole will not spend money to reduce emissions as long as the rules (or, more precisely, the absence of rules) confer a competitive advantage on the businesses that do nothing. Indeed, it is precisely to achieve a level playing field that more and more big utilities - the very companies Mr. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney thought they were letting off the hook - are now calling on Congress to consider mandatory controls.

Absent a response from the administration, which still maintains, incredibly, that there is insufficient scientific understanding to justify mandatory limits, the country's best hope for meaningful action at the national level rests with the Senate, which will shortly take up an energy bill. .
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:43 PM
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1. The CEO of G.E. said this? Wow. Recommended.
Mr. Immelt runs the biggest company in America, and for that reason some environmental groups hailed his speech last week on climate change as a tipping point in the global warming debate. Mr. Immelt chose his words carefully and did not directly criticize Mr. Bush. But he left no doubt that he believes mandatory controls on emissions of carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas, are necessary and inevitable. And he said he would double investments by G.E. in energy and environmental technologies to prepare it for what he sees as a huge global market for products that help other companies - and countries like China and India - reduce emissions of greenhouse gases.

And the fact that others are following suit (in the next paragraph) - that is a hopeful sign. Thanks!

-wildflower
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:12 PM
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2. kick n/t
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:02 PM
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3. It wouldn't matter if penguins were surfing Miami's submerged palm trees
Edited on Thu May-19-05 08:03 PM by hatrack
Or if caimans began to breed in Lake Michigan.

Chimpy would just give his little grimace and then demand more "sound science" research, and then Inhofe would tell us that it was all an optical illusion perpetrated by Commie tree-huggers.
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:57 PM
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4. Seems to me...
...that the White House and this malAdministration wants endless "do-overs", until they get results they want.

It's been their pattern in elections, appointments, 'diplomacy', reasons to go to war... etc.
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murielkane Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:13 PM
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5. Business generally does best under stable conditions
Most CEO's like being able to see into the future with some reliability and plan ahead. They know that's where their most dependable profits lie.

It's only pirates and looters who think destabilization is a good thing, because they're operating on a snatch-and-grab basis. (Remember how proud Cheney was of the looters in Iraq? "Democracy is messy.")

The pirates who are currently running our government have been throwing enough bones to ordinary businessmen to keep their support up to now. But as they push ahead into radical economic and even environmental destabilization, those supporters have got to be rethinking the bargain.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:49 PM
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6. there was another story today about the thickening of the ice
in the Anartic--cause it is snowing (previously had NOT snowed cause too cold)
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