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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:06 AM
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The Nation: What I Didn't See in Iraq (by Rep. Jim McGovern - Mass.)
(what a great quote, from a U.S. Congressman:
"...Everything we have been told about Iraq by the Bush Administration has either been an outright lie or overwhelmingly false...")

What I Didn't See in Iraq

Posted April 14, 2005
What I Didn't See in Iraq
by Jim McGovern

"Trust me when I tell you things are so much better in Iraq," said one US military official to me on my recent visit to that war-ravaged country. I didn't know whether to scream or pull the remaining two strands of hair out of my head. I was in Iraq as part of a delegation of eight members of Congress, led by House minority leader Nancy Pelosi. Everything we have been told about Iraq by the Bush Administration has either been an outright lie or overwhelmingly false. There were no weapons of mass destruction; we have not been greeted as liberators; and the cost in terms of blood and treasure has outpaced even their worst-case scenarios. Trust is something I cannot give to this Administration.

If things in Iraq are so much better, why are we not decreasing the number of US forces there? Why is the insurgency showing no signs of waning? Why are we being told that in a few months the Administration will again ask Congress for billions of dollars more to fight the war? Why, according to the World Food Program, is hunger among the Iraqi people getting worse? It's time for some candor, but candor is hard to come by in Iraq.

We were in Iraq for one day--for security reasons, it is US policy that Congressional delegations are not allowed to spend the night. We spent most of our time in the heavily fortified Green Zone, which serves as coalition headquarters. It's the most heavily guarded encampment I've ever seen--and it still gets attacked. I even had armed guards accompany me to the bathroom. The briefings we received from US military and diplomatic officials were, to say the least, unsatisfying. The Nixonian approach that our military and diplomatic leaders have adopted in dealing with visiting members of Congress is aimed more at saving face than at engaging in an honest dialogue. At first, our briefers wanted to get away with slick slide presentations, but we insisted on asking real questions and attempting to get real answers.

During one such briefing, Lieut. Gen. David Petraeus, tasked with overseeing training of Iraqi security forces, informed us that 147,000 Iraqis had been trained. That sounded good to me. Perhaps we could start reducing the number of American forces, I suggested. But upon further questioning, General Petraeus conceded that less than one-fourth of the 147,000 were actually "combat capable." Why didn't he say that to begin with? I asked--respectfully--our military and diplomatic officials what the gap was between the Iraqis we have trained and the number we needed to train in order to draw down the number of US troops. I could not get a straight answer.

(more at link above)
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:55 AM
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1. Gah. I'm so sick of being lied to...
at least they're lying to congress, too. I'd hate to think I'm the only one being kept in the dark.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:09 PM
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2. This excerpt says it all....a call to action



Our young men and women in uniform are performing their difficult duties extraordinarily well. Indeed, the only honest and direct responses I got from any American in Iraq were from the soldiers. They told me they had been instructed by their superiors not to share any complaints with visitors.

What worries me almost as much as our misguided policy in Iraq is that so many of my colleagues and so many citizens have become resigned to the fact that the war will go on. Congress is not being inundated with letters and phone calls and faxes and e-mails and street protests demanding an end to our presence in Iraq. President Bush's re-election seems to have taken much of the energy out of the antiwar movement. My recent visit to Iraq only strengthened my belief that this war is wrong. And only renewed, passionate dissent by the American people can end it.

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:06 PM
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3. You have to admit, Rove managing to re-select * last November...
...was a major kick to the groin. It's going to take folks a while to get their wind back.:hurts:

I still think the issues we really need to work on is:

1) getting back control of the Vote counting machines (or putting the Diabold brothers in jail)

and

2) Taking back control of the news media.
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