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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:39 PM
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"Condoleeza Rice for next Nobel Peace Prize"
NH Union Leader Sunday Editorial

Serious, serious gag alert... Have a receptacle nearby.

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=51246


Commentary:
Condoleeza Rice is top candidate for next Nobel Peace Prize
By NANCY E. SODERBERG
Guest Commentary



LET ME be the first to say it: Condoleezza Rice may be in line for a Nobel Peace Prize. As a critic of the Bush administration and a Democrat, I’m not a fan of Rice’s record as national security adviser. But if her new rhetoric means a real second-term conversion, she may go down in history as one of the most successful secretaries of State ever.

U.S. actions over the last four years have been driven by Rice and colleagues who believe that as the lone superpower, the United States is powerful enough to act whenever and wherever it wants, primarily through military means. That costly myth has made the superpower burden heavier — and spiked anti-Americanism to unprecedented levels that, in turn, breed further terrorist attacks. There are signs, however, that the administration may be abandoning this myth.

Going into the lion’s den of France earlier this month, Rice spoke of the need for “an even stronger partnership based on common opportunities” and laid out the threats both countries face — terrorism, proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, regional conflicts, failed states and organized crime. Over the last four years, we have lost ground in combating these threats. If she and her boss succeed in restoring America’s place as a persuader, not just enforcer, dramatic progress is possible.

First, the administration is poised to make history in the Middle East, not only between the Palestinians and Israelis but perhaps also between Israel and Syria and the Arab world. The rise of the more responsible Palestinian leadership and the strong U.S. backing of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon could be a winning combination if the administration seriously engages in the search for peace. The backlash over a Syrian role in the assassination of the former prime minister of Lebanon could lead to a housecleaning and a new willingness in Damascus to make peace with Israel. Rice has appointed herself as the lead peace negotiator, putting her firmly in line for a Nobel Peace Prize.

Second, the recent elections in Iraq came off better than even the administration had hoped, with 8.5 million Iraqis voting despite insurgent violence. And they voted for a secular — not Islamic, Iranian-style -- government. The key to success, however, will be continued U.S. aid and military presence over the next several years while we build up a functioning Iraqi force able to maintain security. Historians will long debate whether the U.S. investment was worth it. Regardless, an increasingly stable Iraq will help address problems elsewhere in the Arab world; the United States can convert its investment into progress in the region. To do so, Washington must develop a serious plan to address the lack of reform in the Arab world — a root cause of the radical fundamentalist terrorism. Third, if the administration’s newfound fondness for building partnerships and diplomacy holds, it has a chance to make significant progress in stemming the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

<snip>

Regardless of past differences, the world will follow the United States if it does the right thing. If the administration engages and leads, the gains made in the second term may be some of the most important in our history.

Nancy Soderberg, a senior national security advisor in the Clinton administration, is the author of “The Superpower Myth, the Use and Misuse of American Might.”

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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:42 PM
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1. Oh GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:44 PM
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3. Let me vomit
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:43 PM
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2. A criteria for the Nobel Peace Prize in this day and age
. . . should be opposition to Bush and neoconservatism.

Dr. Rice is just another war criminal in a cabal characterized by a callous disregard for international law and human rights.
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mpanno Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:47 PM
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4. Now that I've finished
:puke: ... I am either very stupid, or confused. Exactly what has SHE done specifically to bring PEACE?

:wtf:



:argh:
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:49 PM
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5. My respect for this prize ...

...will vanish entirely if she receives it.

This is truly disgusting.

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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:52 PM
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6. This writer must have REALLY loved the
outfit with the black high-heeled boots.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:53 PM
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7. The Union Leader
Has been the print equivalent of Fox News since at least the 1960's. And probably much longer. That's just when I first became aware of it.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:37 AM
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23. Okay - they are known delusionals. Keep dreaming Union Leader!!
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:56 PM
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8. Given past crimes, the world will follow?
Edited on Sat Feb-26-05 09:58 PM by teryang
This is another variant of the failed Cheney theory of the bandwagon effect.

When everyone sees we are going to war with Iraq, they will get on board. His trip abroad to promote this policy was an unmitigated failure then. It still is.

Toture is a necessary practice. The new American foreign policy.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:58 PM
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9. Are these "Democrats" on drugs???? Is she buddies with
Lieberman? Biden? Zell Miller?

WTF is going on?? Is this sort of crap an effort to DEFUSE DEAN?? What can Dean accomplish if these "Democrats" are intent upon muddying any clear message Dean may be trying to craft?????
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:15 PM
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14. Their playing to the powers that be. All this hoopla about how wonderful
the Iraqi vote was just serves to make Bush look right and that's what he and Chaney want. Miller, Biden, and Lieberman are just riding the band wagon because they are thinking, "What if they are right?"., instead of standing their ground. Those guys need to be reminded that they are Democrats and they can be replaced if the don't pull their own weight.
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:33 PM
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10. Lemme get this straight:
So she should get the Nobel Peace Prize for tranforming herself from a bloodthirty, illegal invasion-enabling liar into an ever so slight moderating influence on Bush's otherwise unchecked warmongering?
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:01 PM
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13. She's "poised to make history"!
Right!--that's what worries me!!!

Condoleeza's "new rhetoric" might mean "a real second-term conversion." Whoa, the bar for a Nobel Peace Prize is getting so low that candidates will need to practice the limbo.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:50 PM
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11. and they say we're 'divorced from reality'
:eyes:
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:16 PM
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15. Where's the Uni-Bomber when you need him?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:00 PM
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12. yet another Clinton administration sellout...
That was a truly remarkable piece of revisionist history and delusional analysis.

Where did Clinton find some of these people?

Looks like Ms. Soderberg wants back into the game. Maybe the neocons will give her some choice diplomatic position in Uzbekistan for her efforts!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:02 AM
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16. Are you clairvoyant???
How did you get this? I happened to have just been in the UL editorial page, looking for the Sunday editorials. It is still dated Saturday.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:53 AM
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18. Hmm
http://theunionleader.com/opinion.html

I was on the Sunday Opinion page, and pulled up the article from "Guest Columnists, (the box on the right-hand side). But now that I look at the article, it says 2/26/05 even though I supposedly pulled it from the Sunday edition. So, now I'm not sure if this editorial is a leftover on-line from the paper's Saturday edition.
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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:18 AM
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17. Uh...
:puke:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:29 AM
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19. Definition: SUCCESSFUL: Unindicted Co-conspirator
not incarcerated in the Hague. Receives federal pension.

Nope. She's not successful yet. Have to wait until whe's dead and beyond the call of justice.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 10:57 PM
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20. Condi spill in aisle 666
... projection and Madison Avenue advertising ... the absurd clothes article, and now this product advance-marketing ...

for someone involved with the International Crisis Group http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=1323&l=1
focusing on conflict and unrest around the world ...
and, Soderberg woke up with this thought?

something just doesn't feel right about this ...
it must be the
Vast Republican Noise Machine syndrome

~ recall when they were marketing Bu$hitler for the Nobel ~

how many people has this idea dawned on?
I conjecture: noooobody ... but, now, the thought has been floated into the Sea of Public Consumption ...

'Condoleeza Rice is top candidate for next Nobel Peace Prize' is rather presumptuous, don't you think?


Noting some of the people connected with the International Crisis Group ... honestly, I don't know how these people can be involved with so many neocon think tanks:

Leslie H. Gelb - Nixon Center Board member http://www.nixoncenter.org/boardac.htm
Co-Chairman, Crisis Group
Former President of Council on Foreign Relations, U.S.


Executive Committee

Morton Abramowitz
Former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State
Former U.S. Ambassador to Turkey

Stephen Solarz - Project for the New American Century
Former U.S. Congressman
http://www.nndb.com/people/521/000061338/
http://www.nndb.com/org/821/000043692/

George Soros - he plays both sides imo
Chairman, Open Society Institute

William O Taylor
Chairman Emeritus, The Boston Globe, U.S.

Adnan Abu-Odeh
Former Political Adviser to King Abdullah II and to King Hussein; former Jordan Permanent Representative to UN

Kenneth Adelman
Former U.S. Ambassador and Director of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency

Zbigniew Brzezinski
Former U.S. National Security Advisor to the President

Wesley Clark
Former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, Europe

Stanley Fischer
Vice Chairman, Citigroup Inc.;
former First Deputy Managing Director of International Monetary Fund

Carla Hills
Former U.S. Secretary of Housing;
former U.S. Trade Representative

~maybe it's just me~
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:19 AM
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21. First Arafat ,the murderer and now Rice, the serial Liar......
Perhaps we should rename the award ..."The George W Bush Award"?
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:57 PM
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27. Nah, the first big serial murder to get the award was Kissinger...n/t
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:36 AM
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22. Give the award to the Palestinian people if they make it to peace.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:01 AM
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24. ("And even God said, WTF?!") nt
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praxiz Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:27 AM
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25. Relax people.

Some of the most outspoken anti-Iraq-war protestors in Norway are on the board of members that select the Nobel Peace-Prize winner, including recently retired bishop of Norway, Gunnar Staalsett.

There is no way in hell any American is ever going to win the Nobel Peace prize.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:18 PM
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28. No - they will nominate her and then spread it around that she was
robbed of the Nobel Peace Prize. And the mirrors of Bush (aka republican heartland types) will repeat and repeat the lie until it becomes the truth. Either that or the Nobel Peace Prize will go the way of the UN and be targeted for destruction.
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:59 AM
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26. Condi for Nobel Peace Prize!!!
Are you kidding?
I wouldn't be surprised if some Nobel Peace Prize winners turn in their prize.
The people who nominate her need their heads examined and after that put in prison for life!
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