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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:12 AM Original message |
Marines Killed Four Wounded Iraqi Prisoners: US Reporter (Story gets worse |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. SNAFU |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 07:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
104. HERE IS HOW EUROPE SEES IT |
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Plaid Adder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. Actually, this was reported in the initial story |
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Carla in Ca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 12:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
97. I have a question for you |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 07:53 AM Response to Reply #97 |
105. Yes Carla, these folks and the whole world knows about Abu Ghraib |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. I had suspected this |
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R Hickey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I heard a burst of rapid fire from one gun. Think it was on BBC |
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exJW (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
44. Yes, I saw a portion right before the "he's fucking breathing!" shot... |
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Bush Lies (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
96. The old man was dying as the other was being shot. |
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colonel odis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
4. sites probably now has a big bullseye on his back. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. I agree with The Plaid Adder's article on today's front page. |
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TexasChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Imagine, if Gore were allowed to serve his term, we wouldn't be talking |
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KingChicken (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
5. This happens all the time |
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UL_Approved (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:55 AM Original message |
I want archive copies |
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UL_Approved (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I want archive copies |
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NCN007 (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
89. King |
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German-Lefty (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. Shhh, nothing to see here. |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Where have you been?!?!?! |
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German-Lefty (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 04:56 AM Response to Reply #31 |
99. American police still have some standards |
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Minimus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'm not hearing anything about the one I saw last week... |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. haven't seen that incident reported yet either n/t |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. cut/edited on CNN |
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Minimus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Yep, that is how I saw it. I don't remember what I was watching but |
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NCN007 (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
86. Yes |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. Has a journalist ever been fragged? |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. US Army just uses a tank |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Reuters: Cameraman killed near Baghdad (Abu Ghraib) prison |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
28. Last year the U.S. bombed the hotel |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
51. IIRC, that was the Palestine Hotel |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
42. More than 100 journalists killed in 2004--so far. |
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colonel odis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
84. i would suspect all the time. sites is lucky he got out of there |
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unfrigginreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
10. WTF? What are our guys thinking? |
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grumpy old fart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:28 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Bush loves us focusing on the "out of control troops" |
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LoneDriver (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
33. The blame for this goes all the way to the top. |
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grumpy old fart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Too True |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
50. Don't be too harsh - we can't be harsh enough.... WAR CRIMES |
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Buck Rabbit (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
81. Not "kids" Marines, professional volunteer soldiers. |
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JSJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 06:04 AM Response to Reply #33 |
102. 'the troops' have earned all the antipathy they get |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 06:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
103. These are not "KIDS" they are Killers, Thugs and Murdereers. |
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grumpy old fart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
15. Needs to go up the command chain |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I think everyone gets the blame, the troops, Bush and us. |
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grumpy old fart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Degrees of Guilt |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. yes, degrees and types of hell |
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Democracy Died 2004 (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
49. Just poor scared, misguided kids being controlled through |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
52. You are right. First crime - corporate war. Second crime - questionable |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
18. I'm guessin' that the US doesn't want to hear about human shields |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. and noone wants to hear about massgraves of US soldiers |
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Comadreja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
77. Doubtful |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 10:26 AM Response to Reply #77 |
107. So you won't believe this either |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
20. Islamonline.org??? |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Wow Val (with 14 posts!) you would be an expert |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Deleted message |
UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:38 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. sorry that I offended you, bendeminga |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. and the differing opinion is... n/t |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Agitprop is not news. |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. how is "Agitprop" and News different? n/t |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Usually.... |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. here's a NYTarticle, from today: there are question that remain |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. The biggest question that remains is... |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. "He could be in danger" ?? |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. If the soldiers perceive Sites is setting them up... |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. yeah, that's all the US Military needs...another death of a reporter |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. links to reporters in Iraq |
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ilovenicepeople (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
95. nothing gets released in the USA without the pentagons aproval |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #63 |
75. Ummm ... why do you keep assuming Sites is anti-war? |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-22-04 06:58 AM Response to Reply #75 |
109. He is already under attack |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
79. How do you know he has an anti-war agenda? |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. w/o using 911/alqaeda/zarqawi/terrorist, justify Iraq invasion |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Nope. Off topic. Won't bite. Thanks though. N/T |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. I rest my case n/t |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Your resting your case because I won't take your... |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 10:07 AM Response to Reply #72 |
106. Because I can tell intelligence at work w/ you |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
83. If the objective of PNAC and the cabal is to takeover regions and the |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 05:50 AM Response to Reply #53 |
100. WOW! You perfectly described.... |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. you seem, once again, to only feel |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #46 |
59. I don't refuse or mind reading agitprop intended... |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. AP; Iraqi PM 'Very Concerned' Over Shooting |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Allawi MUST be concerned with the "Arab Street" |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. if they were a threat, they should have been "secured" not left to die |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Probably...? |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. the world and most of its inhabitants |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. At least 4 agitprop "truths" used in the above |
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Val (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. The "Arab Street" concern is kinda obvious.... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #65 |
82. If the concern was an IED inside a body |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #59 |
108. Then I need a source of news and truth, Val |
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The_Urge (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Maybe |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:02 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Hey the good news is...... |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Conservatives are eager to muzzle the press, sure |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #48 |
57. here's a NYT article from today raising the ? about the other wounded |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
25. If your attack is going exceptionally well, it is probably an ambush.” |
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rudlop (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
30. All Cranked Up? |
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OrwellwasRight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Hi Rudlop |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #30 |
45. We know that pilots were given speed |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #30 |
68. Does the military give 'Go-Pills' or speed to troops on the ground? |
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NCN007 (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
91. No |
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NCN007 (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
90. Also happens when |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
36. Winning their hearts and minds by shooting bullets through them. |
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Comadreja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
78. With all our money in the Pentagon now... |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. Poignant image. |
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CHICKEN CAPITOL USA (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
43. my 100th post Congratulates all on THIS THREAD-YOU ROCK-all great posts |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
54. Freedom is on the march! says Bush |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
55. but but but it was just 4 isolated incidents |
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sattahipdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
62. mercenaries Shadow Soldiers in Iraq n/t |
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NCN007 (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
92. Mercenaries? |
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frankieT (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
85. this kind of executions reminds me of the Einzatsgruppen, |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
87. Support the troops... |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Recht Oder Unrecht Mein Vaterland; Arbeit Macht Frei |
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ArnoldLayne (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
88. This is also going on must see!!!!! |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
98. Sadly, I'm sure this is commonplace.... |
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JSJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 06:00 AM Response to Original message |
101. that's 'the troops' i've come to know and loath- bad, bad, bad! |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-22-04 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
110. kick |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-22-04 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
111. Druge has posted O'Liely's take, he forgives the soldiers. n/t |
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