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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:49 PM
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Canada to U.S.: 'We’re not your drugstore'
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Canada to U.S.: 'We’re not your drugstore'
Nation can't meet America's demand for medication, says official
Updated: 6:18 p.m. ET Nov. 10, 2004BOSTON - Canada warned the United States Wednesday that while it has seen no evidence of prescription drug shortages at home, it cannot act as America’s "drugstore."



“To me it is a matter of common sense that Canada cannot be the drugstore of the United States. Neither American consumers nor Canadian suppliers should have any illusions otherwise,” Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh said in a speech at Harvard University.


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Well Well Well whats the US people going to do Mr.President???
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:51 PM
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1. Response to your question:
Well Well Well whats the US people going to do Mr.President???

* will be laughing as his big drug companies get rich and the class gap widens.
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:13 PM
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6. If the drug prices were kept at a reasonable price...
...we wouldn't have this problem. Read this: http://www.fool.com/community/pod/2004/041110.htm?ref=foolwatch , and try to keep your eyes from bugging out at the exec salaries part - especially the guy who heads Pfizer, Hank McKinnell, who was one of *'s "Rangers." He also is looking at bigger and bigger tax breaks as his salary grows under this crack "tax break" plan that * enacted. So much for fair drug prices for the rest of us if people like McKinnell keep getting their pockets lined so well.

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:53 PM
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2. George W. Bush: "They can buy drugs on the Internets" n/t
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:19 PM
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9. We just have to figure out which internets to buy from
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:00 PM
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3. Looks like it is...
Tough Love Time in The Great White North.

KooKooKooKooKooKooKooKoo...Pass me that jelly donut.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:04 PM
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4. Well when ya make your drugs and buy them from other countries
and sell them for exorbitant prices then a real crisis happens were are sooooooo screwed!!!
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:05 PM
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5. No Canada, you're not.
You are everything we should've been by now. We've only gone backwards.
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VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:15 PM
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7. I can imagine the phone call from Cheney to the Canuck heads:
Shut the door on pharm sales to americans, NOW! Or else!

Note to that health minister: if demand goes up, you continue to buy from the same companies US drugstores buy from. Lying bastard.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:27 PM
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10. This may surprise you
but we do have our own pharmaceutical industry.

There are only a tenth as many Canadians as there are Americans. It doesn't take a call from Cheney to realize we can't be your drugstore.
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Comadreja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:16 PM
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8. Big Pharma has been busy
Sent up their stuffed suits carrying stuffed suitcases of cash to make them an offer they can't refuse.

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RedCon1 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:40 PM
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14. If I were a Canadian pharmaceutical manufacturer,
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 11:42 PM by RedCon1
I would seriously be looking for a way to tap into the American pharmaceutical consumers market. This statement about not being our drug store defies everything I have ever known about economics. There is a huge demand for your products, if you can supply the demand you can make lots of money. Instead of nay saying, I would be preparing to meet the demand? I admit it, I like to make money. I think they're taking orders from America again or else this is complete BS.
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nine23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:17 PM
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15. Excuse me.
So, those nice, empathetic, all-caring CEO's of the American pharmaceutical industry, and their friends in Congress, would welcome the Canadian industry with open arms?

How's business at your Kool-Aid stand, Mr. Entrepreneur? I'll have a purple one...
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:08 PM
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21. I think the problem is that
Canadian pharmacies are getting their drugs from the SAME suppliers as American pharmacies but because of price controls, their prices are much lower. They would just be playing bargain basement middle man. But there's no way they can send enough through the pipeline to meet all of the American demand if everybody starts going through Canada. Plus, their suppliers will probably cut them off if it starts getting out of hand.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:32 PM
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11. Hah. Canada just says "No."
Meanwhile, here in the United States, our politicians whore for the big pharmaceutical corporations.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:33 PM
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12. "We're not going to be your monkey"
Go Canada!
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:37 PM
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13. Wouldn't Canada say "We're not your drugstore,EY?"?
Canada may not have actually said this.
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Sweet_Montreal Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:41 PM
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16. or "We're not your drugstore tabarnak"
... ;)
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OutsourceBush Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:49 PM
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17. Like everything else Bush is involved in ... IRONIC
Claims America has best health care in the world, buy we can't even keep up with Canada. Amen Jesus!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:51 PM
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18. The US needs to enact price controls. Period. Canada does that.
That is why prices are so high; US prices are astronomically higher than anyone elses. And it's the same damn medicine that we sell here that goes over there, there's nothing dangerous about it - except for the propaganda spread by certain political candidates, which * obviously was. (but don't get me wrong, Kerry tapdanced around this issue too.)
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:44 PM
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23. What totally pisses me off
is that the pharma co's say they need to overcharge US consumers for R&D, hell, isn't that what the US taxpayer gives them tax credits for? Someday, when we eliminate all the health insurance companies, we should nationalize the drug manufacturers, too. Then they won't be pissing away megabucks advertising three different dick hardening medicines on TV...
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:59 PM
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19. Fine then we'll stop buying your weed too. Poof , there goes your economy
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:10 PM
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22. LOL!
*
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:11 AM
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25. Don't buy Canadian -
come to Oregon! :)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:00 PM
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20. Harvard University-former home to Dr. Tim Leary and Dr. John Mack
:tinfoilhat:
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:07 AM
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24. Not trying to defend drug pricing
Drug pricing is out of control. However, I do want to point out a common fallacy in "tax credit".

I want to point out that the R&D "tax credit" is actually not really a tax credit in a traditional sense.

For instance, if you spend 150,000 on R&D, usually you have to write it off at 10,000 / year over 15 years.

The R&D credit allows them to write of the entire 150,000 in one year.

So it means that they don't have to pay taxes on money they haven't earned yet -- but it certainly doesn't pay for the R&D in any sense of the imagination.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:27 AM
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26. Germany has become the drugstore for US military for flu shots
Germans have all the flu vaccine they can handle. Twenty euro will get you the shot that America cannot provide to its own service people.
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