Cobb Calls For Investigation of Voting Irregularities

[0rganism]

Hey, maybe Badnarik will get in on this one, too?

COBB CALLS FOR INVESTIGATION OF VOTING IRREGULARITIES

11/5 - Green Party 2004 presidential candidate David Cobb today called for a thorough investigation of reports of voting fraud, suppression and disenfranchisement.

“It’s Florida all over again. Except this time, it’s Ohio where the person responsible for counting votes is chair of the state Bush campaign. Once again there are widespread reports of intimidation, mis-marked ballots and the targeted disenfranchisement of African American voters. It’s very possible the election has been stolen for the second time in a row and again the Democrats have conceded rather than standing up for the right to vote and the right for people’s votes to count,” said Cobb

Seven counties in Ohio used electronic voting machines which didn’t produce paper trails, meaning that fraud would be difficult if not impossible to detect. A number of these counties’ voting machines were provided by Diebold, Inc., whose CEO is Walden W. O'Dell, a major contributor to the Bush campaign who promised, much like JEB Bush did with Florida in 2000, to deliver Ohio to President Bush. No Republican has ever been elected president without winning Ohio.

“There were definitely problems with the vote count in Ohio. For example, I got a call from one reporter at the Ohio statehouse on Election Night who told me the Secretary of State was reporting that Cobb had 45,000 write in votes in Ohio, which was way off the mark. Just the fact that they can count votes without any paper trail whatsoever is truly terrifying. How are we going to know whether the election was valid or not? Why did the exit polls not match the vote? We deserve answers to these questions. Once again, the legitimacy of the entire Bush administration is in doubt,” said Cobb-LaMarche Media Director Blair Bobier.

http://www.votecobb.org/news1/document.2004-11-05.8107345760

[NVMojo]

1. good, now make it happen!!!

[pacalo]

2. The more, the merrier. I'm glad to see this gaining steam.

[genius]

3. He needs to specifically ask for a hand recount where possible

The counting machines (Diehold) were also fixable with a couple of keystrokes.

[Carolab]

4. Yeah here in MN

Where Patty Wetterling ran against Mark Kennedy--the 6th Cong. District, there were OVER 8,000 votes for Cobb--and only in the (usually) low 100s for Cobb in EVERY OTHER DISTRICT. This makes no sense at all--particularly for this district. This was on the SOS website the night of the election. I wonder if it still reads like that? Kennedy was running horrible, lying ads against Patty--because Patty looked like she was going to take the election. We use optically scanned ballots here in St. Paul. I don't know what they used elsewhere in the state or if they were all OCR.

[genius]

5. MacAulliffe is on his way out. Does this Cobb guy need a new job?

[anarchy1999]

6. I wish more of you all here at DU knew David Cobb. Go David!!

Thank you ever so much. We stand behind you and support you 100%!

Sherry and David Bollenbacher
Dallas, Texas

[genius]

7. Since he was a candidate, doesn't he have the same rights as

Kerry to demand a recount, etc?

[0rganism]

9. Ohio's recount and contest statutes...

http://onlinedocs.andersonpublishing.com/oh/lpExt.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=PORC

§ 3515.01. Persons eligible to apply for recount.

Any person for whom votes were cast in a primary election for nomination as a candidate for election to an office who was not declared nominated may file with the board of elections of a county a written application for a recount of the votes cast at such primary election in any precinct in such county for all persons for whom votes were cast in such precinct for such nomination.

Any person who was a candidate at a general, special, or primary election for election to an office or position who was not declared elected may file with the board of a county a written application for a recount of the votes cast at such election in any precinct in such county for all candidates for election to such office or position.

Any group of five or more qualified electors may file with the board of a county a written application for a recount of the votes cast at an election in any precinct in such county upon any question or issue, provided that the members of such group shall state in such application either that they voted "Yes" or in favor of such question or issue and that such question or issue was declared defeated or rejected, or that they voted "No" or against such question or issue and that such question or issue was declared carried or adopted. Such group of electors shall, in such application, designate one of the members of the group as chairman, and shall indicate therein the voting residence of each member of such group. In all such applications the person designated as chairman is the applicant for the purposes of sections 3515.01 to 3515.07 of the Revised Code, and all notices required by section 3515.03 of the Revised Code to be given to an applicant for a recount shall be given to such person.

In the recount of absentee ballots that are tallied by county instead of by precinct, as provided in section 3509.06 of the Revised Code, the county shall be considered a separate precinct for purposes of recounting such absentee ballots.

§ 3515.08. Contest of election.

The nomination or election of any person to any public office or party position or the approval or rejection of any issue or question, submitted to the voters, may be contested by qualified electors of the state or a political subdivision.

In the case of an office to be filled or an issue to be determined by the voters of the entire state, or for the offices of members of congress, or for judicial offices higher than that of court of common pleas, or for an office to be filled or an issue to be determined by the voters of a district larger than a county, said contest shall be heard and determined by the chief justice of the supreme court or a justice of the supreme court assigned for that purpose by the chief justice; except that in a contest for the office of chief justice of the supreme court, such contest shall be heard by a justice of such court designated by the governor.

In the case of all other offices or issues, except judicial offices, such contests shall be heard and determined by a judge of the court of common pleas of the county in which the contest arose. In the case of a contest for a judicial office within a county, such contest shall be heard by the court of appeals of the district in which such county is located. If any contestant alleges prejudice on the part of the judges of the court of appeals or the court of common pleas, assigned to hear such appeal, then the chief justice of the supreme court, upon application of any such contestants and for good cause shown, may assign judges from another court to hear such contest.

[bullimiami]

12. absolutely. he should be on every state ballot as the green

candidate. he is a very good ally to have.


i love the green party.

[genius]

8. If he pulls this off, I'l back him for DNC chair

[anarchy1999]

14. He does not want it. Thanks but no.

n/t

on edit, why not just back him?

[genius]

22. I want to back someone who has a chance of winning

I believe that we have to work with major parties now. They have millions of voters. I'm open to changing the current political structure.

[anarchy1999]

27. David Cobb had every chance of winning. No one got to hear him.

unless you accidentally stumbled into C-Span and were able to catch a speech. We went through it many times in Texas as he ran for Attorney General in 2002. The media makes sure you don't get to hear a sane voice.

[0007]

18. I heard him talk a few times, and I like what I hear.

[vetwife]

21. I agree with Sherry and David

[anarchy1999]

28. Thank you Amanda.

n/t I'm checking out tomorrow and taking a vacation for a week. I'll probably not have access, but I'll try to keep in touch.

[Seabiscuit]

10. Cobb's standing up for us? Where is John Kerry when we need him???

Spinless, betraying Rat Fink.

[Jawja]

17. John Kerry

cannot do this. The recount in Florida in 2000 was automatic due to the vote margin. That's what kicked things off.

If Kerry were to do this, the media would be all over him and pushing for him to concede and the Bush Cartel would be in the courts. Remember the "Al Gore is trying to steal the election" bullshit? That's what would happen.

Kerry is doing the right thing. It's the voters who need to challenge the results.

[maryallen]

19. "Media being all over him?" -- Doesn't it go with the territory?

My god, Nader (Independent) and Cobb (Green) can ask for a re-count/investigation, but the Dem can't because the "media will be all over him?"

Oh, please ... We've been had ... BIG TIME!

No guts; no glory ...

[RedSock]

20. who gives a shit when the medis thinks?

kerry: "ooooh the media might not like me. i better be quiet and just quit and go away. they might call me a bad name, oh that would be so horrible."

fuck that -- you fight for what is right.

[Seabiscuit]

24. In addition to agreeing to the two other posters who answered you

I will add that John Kerry PROMISED to fight to the last vote with his 200,000 army of attorneys - challenging every irregularity in every precinct in every state until he could guarantee us that every last vote was counted and verified!

Instead, he quit. Prematurely. All kinds of voting scandals are beginning to appear and millions of votes have yet to be counted.

Yet John Kerry quit and sent his lawyers packing.

John Kerry deceived us and abandoned us and let us down.

John Kerry sucks BIG TIME. Chickenshit DLC Rat Fucker!!!

So you're afraid the media won't like someone who stands for principle? Screw the media - they're just whores for the radical right wing. Why should you or John Chickenshit Kerry give a rat's ass what they say????

[LTRS]

29. What? So much for no surrender and "I've got your

back" huh?

[bullimiami]

11. dave its not just ohio that is florida all over again

its gone nationwide. it had too. we kicked this election with a landslide and only massive massive fraud could take it from us.

[54anickel]

13. Did you catch this thread on the Congress calling for an investigation

into the election?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x963900

[pffarrell]

15. Has anyone seen this?

http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5071629.html

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Business groups picked Ohio two years ago as the first place to fully deploy a new tactic for turning out Republican votes in the 2004 election.

Managers at more than 50,000 companies in Ohio urged employees to vote, while trying to coax them in e-mails to look at customized internal Web sites rating politicians' votes on business issues, a project leader said. One rating gave Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry a zero last year on votes affecting manufacturers.

Now the business strategists are trumpeting their efforts in Ohio and several other battleground states as a prime example of how Republicans topped Democrats in turning out voters, clinching President Bush's reelection
<snip>
In Minnesota this year, Casey said, 327,800 employees opened Prosperity Web sites that display key business issues and business groups' ratings of votes by congressional members. Among Minnesota's delegation, Republicans rated sharply higher. GOP Sen. Norm Coleman got two 91 percent ratings, while Democratic Sen. Mark Dayton was rated from 8 percent to 45 percent. (Neither senator was up for election this year.) In the House, where every seat was up for election, Minnesota's four GOP members rated between 75 and 100 percent, while conservative-leaning Democratic Rep. Collin Peterson (52 percent to 70 percent) was the only one of four House Democrats to exceed 38 percent.

more...


I have a friend who works for Pfizer, and he said that in 2000 their intranet said they should vote for Bush. It's clearly illegal, what can we do to stop it?

[Eurobabe]

16. My next door neighbor is the county organizer for Badnarik

I am on it with him. Let you all know what I find out.

PS. We're in central Virginia

[mzmolly]

23. We need an alliance. Kerry/Cobb/Nader all of them need to work together

:shrug:

[0rganism]

25. Hell, why leave out Badnarik? I doubt he's overjoyed by the results

Libertarians are anti-tax and anti-federal government. Bush will not eliminate taxes, except on the very rich, and he has certainly done nothing to shrink government.

Libertarians oppose the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Libertarians oppose the intrusion of religion into the state, and vice versa. They will not be pleased by religiously-motivated bans on abortion and restricting scientific research.

Libertarians have raised a pricipled opposition to the erosion of privacy rights under the "Patriot" act.

This election is a setback for them, if they go along quietly.

[Obviousman]

26. you beat me to it

we have nader and cobb on board, lets get badenerik and brown

[anarchy1999]

30. Kick to the top.

n/t