Anti-Abortionist Says He Expects 'a Great Reward in Heaven

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STARKE, Fla. — Paul Hill (search), a former minister who gunned down an abortion
doctor, said he feels no remorse and suggested the state will be making him a martyr
when he becomes the first person executed in the United States for anti-abortion
violence.

Barring an unlikely last-minute stay, the 49-year-old
former Presbyterian (search) minister will be put to death by
lethal injection Wednesday evening for the 1994 murders in
Pensacola of Dr. John Britton and his escort, retired Air Force Lt.
Col. James Herman Barrett.
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"The sooner I am executed ... the sooner I am going to heaven," Hill said in a jailhouse interview. "I expect a great reward in
heaven. I am looking forward to glory. I don't feel remorse."

more...........

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96286,00.html

[Spentastic]

1. Er?

I suggest someone gives the guy a bible and ruins his day.

[Gore1FL]

2. 72 virgins maybe?

I think that is the going rate for terrorists.

[Racenut20]

3. Wasn't that great

NBC gave him his moment in the sun. Good ole' Matt.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. Wonder how his family feels?

He has three kids of his own. Do they share his feelings of hate and vengence? Did this guy ever think of what he was doing to his family when he went out to murder? Or was he so into the martyr complex that it didn't matter?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

5. and he truly believes that God wanted(told) him to KILL!!!

:scared: i know a few texas fundies that have minds exactly like this poor bastard :scared:

[CO Liberal]

6. If There Is a Hell, Paul Hill Will Be There

Frying for all eternity.

[Suspicious]

8. I like the reincarnation scenario, myself.

I imagine people like this coming back as an amoeba, or something similar. Straight back to start. }(

[Atlant]

12. Coming back as an HIV virus particle would be more appropriate.

If you come back as what you aspired to be, then Paul Hill coming back
as an HIV virus particle would be more appropriate. After all, death
was his stock-in-trade in this life and his beliefs were like an
evil contagion.

If you come back in the condition from which you are likely to learn
the most about tyour errors, then he'd clearly come back as a poor
young woman, pregnant against her choice but being raised by a
fundamentalist family who are "pro-life".

Atlant

[Monte Carlo]

19. There is a special place in Hell for the hypocrites

Such as those who murder in an attempt to stop supposed murder.

[Jane Eyre]

7. Grand irony

This guy kills because someone he believes is a killer.
The government then kills him because he is a killer.
We have a cycle of killing that will never stop.

[prolesunited]

9. Thanks for pointing that out

I'm against the death penalty anyway, but in this case I don't see how people don't see that making this guy live in prison for the rest of his life without any possibility of parole would be the ultimate punishment.

True justice in this case would be to refuse to make this guy a martyr.

[HFishbine]

18. Agrreed

The greater punishment would be for him to sit in a cell for the rest of his life to think about what he's done.

[Liberal Veteran]

21. True punishment would be making him work and the money going to fund....

...women's clinics that provide abortion services.

[Atlant]

10. And some of you wonder why some of us view religion as dangerous.

> "The sooner I am executed ... the sooner I am going to heaven,"
> Hill said in a jailhouse interview. "I expect a great reward in
> heaven. I am looking forward to glory. I don't feel remorse."

When you read a statement like this, it helps to illustrate why
some of us here believe that religion is dangerous to the functioning
of a sane society. This man is clearly insane, and his religion (and
presumably his religious leaders) helped him choose to do evil things,
fostering his insanity.

As someone pointed out, there's really no qualitative or quantitative
difference between his insanity and the insanity of Muslim radicals
who believe they're going to get 72 virgins in Paradise for blowing
up infidels.

Believing things that are not true is the very definition of insanity.

Atlant

[GOPFighter]

13. Sadly, I agree

I was raised in a fundamentalist Baptist church. I listened as a kid to them argue whether "negroes" had souls (50/50, those who said no argued that animals don't have souls) and if so, whether they had their own heaven (yes, heaven HAD to be segregated). Their delusions are breathtaking.

[Kemet]

15. your story reminds me

of a great movie i saw awhile ago where a group of clergy members meet do discuss wether natives from the new world have a soul.
I recommand this movie (made for tv i guess), here is the link:

imdb Controverse de Valladolid

[Uroboros]

14. It's not religion that's dangerous...

but some people. The kind of people will use whatever tool they have at there disposal to make themselves feel more important, and screw over their fellow man in the process. If it wasn't religion; it would be something else.

I'm not a religious person myself; but when a nut-job like this can justify killing another in the name of religion (even though his religion clearly states, thou shalt NOT kill); I realize that the mistake is the man..and not the message.

What Bible was this idiot reading from anyway. Oh yeah..must be the same bible Bush and his cronies read from. The one that says screw the poor and make as much money in the process.

[liberalmuse]

16. I hope those NDE accounts are true...

where after a person dies, they experience all the pain they've caused by becoming the other people. Maybe he'll experience being this Dr.'s wife and kids and parents. Then again, maybe he'll just rot in the ground, fodder for maggots and beetles, and we'll be devoid of his ignorance forever.

[Liberal Veteran]

22. But people like him aren't "real" Christians.....

Whatever the hell that means.

The funny thing is that most Christian leaders say approximately the same kinda things that many Muslim leaders say about Islamic terrorists, but all you ever hear in our media is things like "How come other Muslims don't condemn terrorist attacks?" and then seem to go out of their way to find a Muslim sympathetic to the terrorist to show on tv to "prove" their point.

[Atlant]

24. I understand that.

> But people like him aren't "real" Christians ... Whatever the hell that means.

I understand that. I have complete faith (a funny word for me to use)
that the "Real Christians" are the folks I've stood with at countless
peace protests and candlelight vigels. I think these people really
understand the message of their Christ.

Unfortunately, America seems to be chock full of some other sort of
Christian. You know the kind I mean: The kind that threw holy water
on me when I was on the Nashua Board of Education considering whether
we should make human sexuality education available to our students.
The kind that "creatively marked up" the picture I posted at work of Bill
Clinton with his arm around my son's shoulder. The kind that drive by
and yell at me at those same peace protests and candle-light vigils.
And the kind with the "Take Back Vermont!" signs in their yards, as
if God wants them to punish homosexuals on his behalf. Or the kind
that tell me I'm going to Hell for not believing in their particular
sect. Or the kind that build huge temples way up on hills in Belmont,
MA so we all know how holy they are so we'll vote for them for
Governor so they can better line their pockets by persecuting
Christ's poorer brethren.

Those are the "Christians" that spawned Paul Hill. And they are
a multitude in America.

Atlant

[hang a left]

11. This guy is a whack job!!

Sick, evil man. It is a shame that he will become a martyr, for the likes of Bush*s base of voters.

[underpants]

17. Why was he given a press conference?

I know that from time to time there are interviews of convicted murderers (Geraldo's Manson interviewS comes to mind) but why on earth was he given a platform to spew his hate and call for violence?

``More people should act as I have acted,'' Hill added.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Abortion-Execution.html

NBC's The Today show reported that when asked about the 4 bullets sent to 4 Fla. state officials Hill said ~"Those bullets should be pointed at someone."

Today's action (which is wrong to begin with and serves his purpose)is the "last word" on this but why is this murderer allowed to speak to the general public?

I guess in Florida convicted MURDERERS will not be denied their first amendement rights but those that may have commited a felony (or are suspected to be planning one in 2007) are NOT allowed to voice their opinion at the ballot box.

[shirlden]

20. By current definition, a martyr

is one who dies for his beliefs. Ok...his belief is that it is OK to kill. This is not a Christian dogma and , sorry , that puts you in hell with the rest of mankind's excuses for human beings.
Say hello to Hitler when you get there. Tell him his ideological off spring are now running the U.S.

:nopity:

This is why I am normally against the death penalty. This poor SOB is nuts.

[VolcanoJen]

23. Dupe... locking

Please continue discussion by posting within the original, earliest thread on this topic, which can be found here:

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VolcanoJen
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[Mel]

25. Jesus don't like killing

no matter what the reason's for......John Prine

I say, let this guy live, killing him makes him a martyr. By killing him the government plays right into his hands.