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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:52 PM
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Rice Says U.S. Has No Imperial Ambitions
The United States is no global bully, and disagreement between President Bush and U.S. allies doesn't mean their opinions aren't valued, his top foreign policy adviser says.

"We need allies and need them badly," national security adviser Condoleezza Rice said in a July 31 interview with ZDF German television.

The White House released a transcript of the interview Thursday in Crawford, Texas, where the president has been vacationing.

(snip)

Rice also rejected the interviewer's comparison of the United States to the Roman Empire, which sought to acquire foreign countries.

(snip)

"The case against Iraq was not just an issue of American intelligence," Rice said. "It was an issue, also, of intelligence services around the world -- of U.N. reports that there were large quantities of missing chemical and biological agents, of defectors, including Saddam Hussein's own brother-in-laws, who had left the country and revealed major weapons programs. No, there is no issue of credibility here."

more…
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/08/28/national1957EDT0735.DTL
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:55 PM
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1. Now THAT'S funny!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:56 PM
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2. lying liars and the lies they tell
redux.

Literally, I laughed out loud at the subject heading. As I proceeded through your snips, I guffawed.

Please, Condo, don't insult my intelligence.


Cher

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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:57 PM
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4. We had the same reaction...
My husband actually asked me, "What's so funny?"
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:56 PM
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3. bwhahahah!


sure thing!
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:06 PM
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7. nice artwork.....nt
.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:57 PM
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5. "We need allies and need them badly"
Well, maybe you should've thought about that BEFORE your little unilateral invasion, you dumbass!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 08:17 AM
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20. That's the quote of the day!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:01 PM
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6. Whew! That's a relief.
What with the rumors and all :eyes:
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:08 PM
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8. condi is spinning out of concern about blair's grilling....that certainly
must make them all realize that they are just a few steps away from Nuremberg...war criminal all of them....."no, there is no issue of credibility here"....oh yes there is....
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:11 PM
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9. I believe it
I also believe Condi has impeccable fashion sense, Tom Ammiano isn't gay, and Arnold Schwarzenegger is just what California needs.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:12 PM
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10. Right...
And this Iraq war wan't inspired by imperialism?
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:15 PM
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11. Hilarious!
What no more "yur wid us or wid the terrarists?"

No more my way or the highway?

Personally, I'm voting for the highway in 2004.
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TolstoyAndy Donating Member (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:35 PM
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12. Vote I-294 in 2004!
But seriously, we have no imperial ambitions because we've already got the darn empire!

Holding onto it, well, that's not quite so easy.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:51 PM
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13. helmet hair condi
an interview for German t.v.? What credibility does this woman have outside of this country? None?

She's so fabulously ridiculous.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 04:47 AM
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14. She is interviewed quite often (+link to Interview)
Edited on Fri Aug-29-03 05:24 AM by Kellanved
And her office gives her a lot of credibility. Even more so with right wingers, but not exclusively so.

Her latest (aired 26.8. and AFAIK identical to the one mentioned in the original post) ZDF-Interview (including a video link to the right of the page)

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/7/0,1872,2062919,00.html

undubbed Interview video:
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/mediathek/0,1903,VI-2035258,00.html
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:35 AM
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22. interesting...
Wish I read German.

I still find it hard to believe that anyone in europe takes her seriously - other than perhaps as a lightning rod for whatever foolishness the Bush admin. is going to foist on the world next.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:39 AM
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23. the video is in English
Edited on Fri Aug-29-03 09:42 AM by Kellanved
It's part of a documentary named "Allmacht Amerika" (Omnipower America) - although you can watch the whole documentary online, only the Interview is available in English.

Edit:

The (German) Documentary:
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/mediathek/0,1903,VI-2035325,00.html

The (English) Interview:
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/mediathek/0,1903,VI-2035258,00.html
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:25 AM
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27. well, I made it through 9 minutes of the interview
spin spin spin

Some pretty good, direct questions - but the same old white house spin from Condi -

Marshall plan for Iraq. Weapons "programs" instead of real, live, on the ground WMD.

I couldn't take it anymore.


Thanks for the links, though.
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Maudlin Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 05:08 AM
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15. I guess "Rebuilding America's Defenses" by PNAC
is just another one of those files she didn't read.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 05:19 AM
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16. I watched Condoleezza Rice
give this speech on c-span and Isaid to myself that I don't think I've ever seen a more insipid women in my 70
years of life.

She is right about one thing, and that is, she said, " there is no issue of credibility here." Then why does she feel
that she needs to protect us from slander?

Ms. Rice needs a love life badly in my opinion.
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 05:32 AM
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17. "... no issue of credibility here."
That's truer than Ms. Rice suspects.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:11 AM
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25. reminds me of Powell's "our credibility is intact"
also reminds me of Bobby Bittman's "as a comedian, in all seriousness."
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:32 AM
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18. A spooky profile on Condee from Christianity today mag....
Edited on Fri Aug-29-03 06:38 AM by henslee

ON EDIT....link omitted... Too many pop ups. worth a google, though.

excerpt:

"Rice the intellectual isn't afraid to admit that there are times "when the burden is just too heavy." Still, the peace and love of God is real, she says. The clearest example of this came to her in 1985, when her mother died of breast cancer. (Her father died of heart disease in December 2000.) In the midst of her devastation, Rice recalls being filled with a strength that she says neither intellect nor reason could explain. She "understood for the first time in my life the peace that passes all understanding." (end)



Our Prez. experienced that same moment of clarity/enlightenment -- right after his bottoming out episode. That quick fix, I GOT SINGLED OUT BY CHRIST moment... His, though his was probably brought on more by brain cell loss, not family loss. I deathly fear that these two are simply "damaged goods", head cases that bottomed out and then just fucken' snapped. But due to their wealth and connections, they are able to stay below the radar of the psychtrists, except the ones medicating them. They are functioning nut jobs. Loveless, myopic, unwavering extremists who are easily mainpulated by certain individuals.

No bones, this fanatical faith based administration is in the process of derailing humanity and destroying the planet. They must be stopped. The first step is the Britz giving Blair the boot.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:48 AM
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32. That is Sicking, how many people read that Crap?
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:38 AM
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19. Right- and I have no Deficatorial Ambitions...
I don't plan on taking a shit today but i'm sure it'll happen.

Condi doesn't plan on talking shit today, but I'm sure it'll happen.

"Why don't you fertilize my lawn- with what's running from your mouth!" Patti Smith
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:18 AM
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21. I think we can officially declare now,
that whenever a Bush admin official speaks, the truth is the exact opposite of what they say.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 12:05 PM
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34. I realized that long ago--we live on "Animal Farm"
Comrade Napoleon doesn't WANT an Empire.

That's what Comrade Snowball wanted, and he and all his followers committed Treason!

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:05 AM
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24. HaHaHa!
"We need allies and we need them badly." So long as our allies are on board with Whistle Ass's agenda of World domination that is. If we have to bully our allies to get them on board, well so be it. Gee, and I thought Whistle Ass said the U.S would go it alone if need be. Guess I misunderstood him. :shrug: Is it the American people who have short memories or just this gang of thieves and murderers? Since when did our allies who disagreed with Whistle Ass have their opinions valued? :eyes: Freedom Fries anyone?
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:19 AM
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26. I'm confused..
Reader's Digest had an article a couple of months ago stating terrorism forced the U.S. into Imperialism. Are or are we not?
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:09 AM
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28. She's right - no ambitions of imperialism - just actions of imperialism
She’s also correct in saying that there isn’t a credibility issue. How can there even be an issue when there’s no fucking credibility?

See - if you would let her finish what she was starting to say, it would make more sense.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:11 AM
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29. "I did not build an empire with that woman...
Condi Rice"

Clinton denied having sex. Now, we have Bush*, who denies torturing prisoners and denies building an empire.

I'm so glad we now have honor and dignity in the White House. Now I don't have to listen to denials of sex.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:13 AM
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30. "The United States is no global bully"
I picture the Bully from the Calvin strips holding him against the locker and asking, "Am I a bully?"
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:40 AM
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31. So


We used "intelligence sources" from around the world as long as they fit the Bush agenda...YET, ignored the world when we decided to go to war.

If what other nations said didn't matter then why were we so hot and bothered to go fight BASED on something another nation said.

These Republicans are the slimiest bastards I could imagine. They will say ANYTHING...no matter how remotely absurd it is, they will couch it as fact and keep pounding at it until the nation believes them.

Rush Limpdick's MO to a T.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:55 AM
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33. Yes, Condi, and you are a 275 lb. man in diguise
Lying Liars and the Lies they Tell.

Sickening.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 12:08 PM
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35. But I thought we had almost 40 other countries..
Supporting the administrations actions in Iraq? I definately got the impression that the administration had told the rest of the world to kiss their arrogant neo-con butts. Now they need allies badly? Please, someone fill me in on what I missed when I went to the fridge during commercial.:wtf:
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