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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:32 AM
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US 'needs help in Iraq'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3058469.stm

The Bush administration is coming under growing domestic pressure over its Iraq strategy amid continuing attacks on US forces in the country.

The US Senate has voted unanimously to urge President George W Bush to consider asking Nato and the United Nations for help in rebuilding Iraq.

The non-binding resolution said that while it was in the interests of the United States to remain engaged in Iraq, conditions there posed a serious threat to American troops.

Public opinion in the US appears to reflect this disquiet, with polls showing a marked decline in support for the Bush administration's policy on Iraq.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:39 AM
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1. Well
France, Germany, India and Pakistan have turned Rumfilled down, unless the reconstruction job is turned over to the U.N.

They must be amazed at the idiocy of this administration........insulting them, insisting on invading Iraq, and now its....WAAAAAAAAAA, we need some help over here!

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mjb4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:04 AM
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11. they will get it...this is the US remember
hard to admit, but true. Cofi is to meet with Chimpy, MHMITW, on Monday.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:40 AM
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2. Can you imagine Bushboy going cap in hand to the UN now?
Edited on Fri Jul-11-03 09:40 AM by mistertrickster
After the way he villainized Hans Blix et al?

The radical right would get whiplash . . .
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:42 AM
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3. I hope that if bush goes to NATO or the UN
that they tell him to pound salt. This mess was created by the US and Great Britain, they should clean it up.
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LoneStarLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:45 AM
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4. Even better than pounding salt...
...make him ask for help in French.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:39 AM
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12. LOL!!
That would be great!
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 02:44 PM
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18. You want salt on ...
those French fries? ;-)
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Star Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 02:51 PM
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19. No, this is a good thing
For the sake of our men and women who are in harm's way in Iraq, we need the UN or NATO to take over the responsibility for peacekeeping in Iraq. As long as the UN, or whoever takes over, has control of the situation, and not Rummy and his deck of cards, the Iraqi's will have a much better chance of getting their country back together.

I think the Iraqi's will accept the UN and trust them more than they trust the US, too.

The UN's main condition, though, must be that they have complete charge of the situation.
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termo Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 05:24 PM
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22. why
why should UN take Irak back before 2004 election, let the situation rotten a little more to be sure than bush won't be reelected.

any way, US can leave Irak anytime, it is just a question of pride.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:46 AM
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5. "You broke it, you bought it"
A friendly reminder from The Little Curio Shoppe.
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amberdisc Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:50 AM
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6. So where are the Spanish, Italians and Dutch?
They said they supported the invasion (the leaders, not most people)and were in the coalition of the willing.
Any talk of their sending troops?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:58 AM
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8. The Danish are there with snow shovels in hand
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/B657387.htm

Danish forces in Iraq armed with snow shovels

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COPENHAGEN, July 10 (Reuters) - Danish security forces in Iraq, struggling with temperatures of around 50 degrees Celsius (122 F), are prepared for the worst -- even a blizzard.

The almost 400 soldiers from the chilly Nordic are equipped with snow shovels, brooms and a lawnmower as they work to restore law and order in the war-torn country.

"It's all part of a standard camp equipment," Jess Rasmussen from the Danish Army Operational Command's materiel section told Reuters.

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bluedem Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:02 AM
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9. Exactly. I seem to remember 45 or so members of the coalition of the
"willing" being thrown in our faces in the frenzy for the upcoming war. Where the hell are they? And more importantly, why isn't the press asking this question?? (never mind about that last question - rhetorical)
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:53 AM
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7. They will help
They will help by pointing out "our" responsibilities in Iraq as an agressive, invading, occupying nation.

Don

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termo Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 05:26 PM
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23. already done
US and UK reconized their position of occupiers to have the sanctions lifted.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:03 AM
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10. Time to bury the hatchet
There are hundreds of thousands of lives at stake. Relief agencies can't do their work due to lack of security.

The US is not up to the task alone, and it might quiet things down if there was some international support.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:47 AM
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13. I almost agree
I think the UN and NATO have the same worries as many of us. If they bail us out of Iraq as they did in Afghanistan that will only open the door for Junior and his minions to move on to their next conquest for oil somewhere else. Perhaps in the long run they are saving lives by waiting for a new administration here in the USA before lifting a hand?

Don

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:47 AM
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14. Bush* spit in the face of the international community...
...and now wants cash and help from these people?

- Bush* put these lives at stake over a lie and to boost his reelection numbers. He has broken every international treaty in sight. They should tell him to go to hell.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:31 PM
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15. Not cash & help. He wants cash & cannon fodder.
Edited on Fri Jul-11-03 12:32 PM by NYC
He wants someone else's soldiers to die so he won't have a low approval rating here.

Edit: I think the U.N. should help &/or take over IF the U.S.A. agrees to give up ALL oil rights, contracts, etc.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:41 PM
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16. No plan by the 'MAN' is symptomatic of his program
PLEASE ! read www.renanabrooks.com 's work on Bush.. it explains SOOO! much about him and his PUPPET MASTERS. Dr Brooks is a Psychological Presidential Policical Scolar, her new book is titled..The Virtue Myth; american cultures obession with abuse and intimidation. go to her site and click 'recent articles'. she has a GREAT psylogical profile of bush. and why as an adult survivor of childhood abuse he pisses me off so much. i can not listen to him, the manner in which Dr Brooks describes is most enlightening to understanding the techniques of the right wing and their purpose.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 03:30 PM
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21. Thanks for the interesting link.
Excerpt:

Once a present and future negative framework is installed, the abusive personality has a much easier time convincing the audience of the severity of the problem at hand. George W Bush has been known to utilize abstract passive construction to suggest that some terrible force outside our control is threatening our survival. He tends to describe these threats or problems as beyond our control, totally overwhelming and lacking any specific solution. An example of abstract passive construction is the administration's color-coded terror threat alert system, which is issued without any specific guidance to the American people other than being vigilant -- and afraid.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 02:43 PM
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17. Forget NATO. Dubya should kiss some French, German, and Russian ass.
He should grovel at their feet and beg them to please send peacekeepers.

Then, all three should say: 'We warned you. No way are we going to put our troops at risk in your quagmire.'

The UN shouldn't touch it without French, German, and Russian agreement.
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AngryWhiteDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 02:59 PM
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20. We should write to Chirac, Schroeder
We should write to Chirac, Schroeder....plead with them to make an offer to Shrub.

France and Germany will send in troops to keep the peace in exchange for Bush and his team's resignations.
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