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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:36 PM
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Backlash builds against Keyes' remarks (From Non-Gay Republicans Now)
snip........

Keyes blamed the media for personalizing his comments about Mary Cheney.

"Do I know whether or not the daughter of the Cheneys is engaging in such acts? It is not for me to know," Keyes said. "I only know the argument I have made. It is for others to draw the conclusion."

snip........

"I think it's nasty, and I don't like nasty politics," she said. "You don't pick on people's kids. Kids are off limits." (Judy Baar Topinka, the Republican state party chairwoman)

snip.........

"My suspicion is we will see and hear from candidate Keyes for the next 60 days, and after that he'll probably be out of Illinois," Cross said. (State Rep. Tom Cross, the House Republican leader)

LOTS MORE..............

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/conventions/rnc/chi-040901keyes.story

Not that Keyes stood a chance in winning, but he really shot himself in the foot with those comments. RULE #1: You don't badtalk the Godfather's family.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:40 PM
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1. Anyone brave to get the Freepers' take? n/t
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:43 PM
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2. I saw Topinka on the local NBC affiliate news....
She was SO pissed it was funny.

Dick Kay, the long-time political reporter, mused on whether Big Jim Thompson would vote for Obama. Illinois repukes are distancing themselves from Keyes. Talk about a decision that comes back and bites you in the ass....
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:46 PM
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3. This convention is turning out to be one big bite-on-the-ass
for the Right. At first I was worried about it, but it seems as if a new FU or three happens every day. They're just going down the list and pissing off just about every group that exists.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:50 PM
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6. Obama is so wonderful that he should win against
Anybody but as fate would have it..he only has a poor smuck as opposition.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:49 PM
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16. First of all, Keyes is a carpetbagger
Second of all, Keyes is an extraordinary spokesman for bigoty an intolerance.

Third of all, if Keyes were white, he would be in the KKK.

I wonder by how much Keyes will trail Obama in proportion to the votes of other GOP candidates.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:01 PM
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19. I well know, I live in Chicago.....
Obama was extremely popular around here even back when Ryan was in the running.

Now....
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:25 AM
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30. Heh
Alan Keyes reminds me of the blind KKK guy on Chappelle's Show who didn't realize he was black.

I can't WAIT for Obama to hand this jerk his ass...should be one of the biggest landslides in history.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:27 AM
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32. LOL!!!
"the blind KKK guy on Chappelle's Show who didn't realize he was black."

That's just so right!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:48 PM
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4. WE knew keyes was stupid...and a big mouth...two
unbeatable combinations for us!
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:50 PM
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7. The total true-believer mentality in action. n/t
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FlaIndie Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:50 PM
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8. I wonder if Dumbya will call Keyes
A major league a**hole too. :silly:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:49 PM
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5. Oh, now kids are off-limits?
Were these Republicans saying this when Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton a dog?

Chelsea was a child when Limbaugh did that. Mary Cheney is an adult. I don't remember hearing any outrage from the Republicans over what Rush Limbaugh said about Chelsea.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:51 PM
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9. They probably have a few slanderous words for
the Kerry, Edwards girls, too and probably even the little Edwards' darlings.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:50 PM
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17. anyone remember this?
http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshireprint021501.html

Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past — I'm not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble — recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin's penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an "enemy of the people". The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, "clan liability". In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished "to the ninth degree": that is, everyone in the offender's own generation would be killed, and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed. (This sounds complicated, but in practice what usually happened was that a battalion of soldiers was sent to the offender's home town, where they killed everyone they could find, on the principle neca eos omnes, deus suos agnoscet — "let God sort 'em out".)

We don't, of course, institutionalize such principles in our society, and a good thing too. Our humanity and forbearance, however, has a cost. The cost is, that the vile genetic inheritance of Bill and Hillary Clinton may live on to plague us in the future. It isn't over, folks. Dr. Nancy Snyderman, a "friend of the family" (how much money did she give them?) is quoted as saying that Chelsea shows every sign of following her parents into politics. "She's been bred for it," avers Dr. Snyderman. Be afraid: be very afraid.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:08 AM
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29. How very republican. n/t
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:07 PM
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10. I don't understand. Keyes is a mainstream Republican.
He is only saying what is reflected by the core values of the Republican Party. Poor guy....here he is being a good Republican and his own Party is forsaking him. Why the flip-flop on such a principled position?
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FlaIndie Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:21 PM
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11. they try to conceal their homophobia and racism
It is called "protecting marriage" and not beliving in giving people "special rights." Keyes didn't get the memo.
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liberalcanuck Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:56 PM
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18. I agree. At least this pig calls it as he sees it. He is the true
face of this party. It looks really good on this party as they're trying to put a moderate spin during the convention on a truly hateful platform that Keyes is out there spewing his filth.

He's so friggin' out there on the fringes. What a crazy loon.
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metisnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:27 PM
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12. this guy speaks in tongues
this is not lord of the rings keyes... who in the hell are you talking to? what a joke OBAMA landslide for sure.

:dem:

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FlaIndie Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:35 PM
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13. Can Obama hit 75%?
That'd be ridiculously funny for a 1st-time candidate and could swing some house races and state races to the Dems.
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Zell in Hell Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:51 PM
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22. That depends...
If Keyes makes Osama comparisons, he won't hit 75%: He'll hit 90.
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FlaIndie Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:56 PM
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23. then it's a done deal!
I heard some Repubs already were calling Barak, "Osama."
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:01 AM
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28. Sometimes I love being a dem
With people like Obama who represent my party. The GOP is just sound and fury, signifying nothing -- to mis-appropriate Shakespeare. The whole lot of them are nothing but blustering idiots who speak in vague hyperbole.

Some of the speakers can give good rhetoric -- Like Ahnold. But, that's all that he has -- Rhetoric and celebrity. I'm nervously awaiting to hear Bush's policy proposals this evening. I'm sure they will all be designed to weaken security at home while making life better for the Iraqi's. That's the republican way!



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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:38 PM
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14. I bet Bush feels the same way as Keyes...nt
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:44 PM
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15. Snakes eat their young too
The only transgression Keyes is guilty of, in the eyes of "mainstream" Republicans, is verbalizing what goes on in their heads. It's like transference in psychology: they retain their self-esteem by attributing to him the hateful feelings they have in themselves.

Loathsome creatures. It wouldn't be so bad if they were entertaining, but they're dunderheads. Such a boring convention. A hall full of ciphers kept afloat by their own self-righteousness and blind ignorance.

I'd ask rhetorically, Who cares what they think, but I'd have to grant lower primates the presence of thought first.

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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:09 PM
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20. Pubs offended that Keyes let the cat out of the bag, said what they think
After all, the media doesn't need to know how the conservatives in charge of the pubbie party REALLY think.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:47 PM
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21. to give topinka credit
(and I don't usually give repukes any credit), she has publicly stated her opposition to making Keyes the candidate. She's a "moderate" by repuke standards, even participated in a gay pride parade.

But,the real point is that every gay person is someone's "kid"...gay bashing shouldn't become off-limit only when that kid is Dick Cheney's daughter...

onenote
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:59 PM
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24. keyes lives "two towns over" from me
and my neighbor said his kids are enrolled in school here (in maryland) and school started on monday. i don't think his family are moving to illinois.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:39 AM
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26. Yeah, but that makes sense even if he wins
Because he can live in Maryland and attend the senate--thereby making sure that he never spends any significant time in Illinois and remains a complete stranger.
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:05 PM
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25. I thought nothing was off limits for the rePIGs. I remember what they
did to Clinton, so Keys nasty remarks are not a suprise. I am suprised that one of them would comment on it.
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LiberalBushFan Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:51 AM
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27. See that? The Repubs are just as bad as the Dems.
Both parties are the same. Vote Peroutka!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:15 AM
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31. after that (the election) he'll probably be out of Illinois," Cross said.
Nice vote of confidence from the Illinois House REPUBLICAN Leader.

If Keyes had any self esteem at all he would pull out now after that. - The Illinois Republicans, who asked him to run, apparently needed a sacrificial lamb and none of them were willing to do it so they found a patsy in Keyes.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:43 AM
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34. Tom Cross is a weasle in his own right. He nominated and had
confirmed a former S/A to the industrial commission in Illinois. This former S/A has a twin on the same board, and he was investigated by the ARDC for mis appropriating funds from a DAF acct as well as hiring ghost payrollers .... these two twins are a bunch of little asswipes Republican losers.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:33 AM
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33. the party of hate rises again
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