Nader refuses to quit race for White House

[Nambe]

Independent Digital (UK) Ltd

... In an interview with The Independent, Mr Nader, said: "Under no circumstances would we drop out ... to all the people who have sweated their hearts out for us and add to the cynicism of the public."

Mr Nader also said that in the unlikely circumstances that John Kerry offered him a position in a future government he would not accept it. ..

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[coloradodem2005]

1. It is official. I am a Nader hater.

n/t

[lottie244]

15. Me too.

But he may be doing Kerry a big favor. Gore, I am sure, is happy with his life, unlike Bush.

[alittlelark]

37. uh yeah. really.

He may be happy, but he could have saved almost a THOUSAND of our troops from death, and 4000 from the loss of limbs.

Gore would have given up 'happier now' for being in a position to protect our servicemen anyday of the week.

[freetobegay]

2. At this point if John Kerry offered him a position

John Kerry would start getting alot of hate mail from me!

[NJCher]

3. of course not

Ralphie's gotta' keep that repuke paycheck coming.


Cher

[MaryBear]

4. So Ralph's intention

is ongoing disruption, rather than constructive change?

[Kenergy]

5. I feel sorry for him...

He, like Repugs, can't admit he's been wrong. Foolish pride.

[Skittles]

9. save your sympathy

he is an arrogant f***ing asshole

[salinen]

6. O.K.

how about janitor at the WH?

[depakid]

7. Too bad- Ralph would have made a great FTC chairman

Ya could have been the best....

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

8. Maybe he can pick Bob Dole for his running mate?

Worked for Gerald Ford

[featherman]

10. No surprise

I've never expected that he would drop out. He is obsessed with himself and his crusade. It is up to us to marginalize him and decrease his effect on the EC. I knew PLENTY of people from the left who supported and voted for him in 2000. NONE are doing so this year. This year I know 2 and both are GOPer's disgusted with Bush but who can't bring themselves to vote for any DEM.. So...who knows?

[LisaL]

11. YEP

I didn't expect he would drop out either.
His ego got to be bigger than him at this point.

[AlFrankenFan]

12. *slaps forehead*

Does someone have to kidnap him and drop him off in Antarctica for him to get it?!

[noahmijo]

13. Hey Payder, you aren't fit to polish Johnny K's shoes at this point

[The Magistrate]

14. That Is Just So Touching, Ma'am

Wrecker Nader's loyalty to the Republican operatives "who have sweated their hearts out for us" deserves some just reward; his contribution by that means to "add to the cynicism of the public" are worth some note as well....

"What a ultra-maroon!"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[bluestateguy]

16. Nader's supporters are a bunch of brainwashed, Kool-Aid drinking wackos

In 2000, they were just misguided or a little obtuse.

In 2004, they are leaglly insane and unpatriotic.

[LisaL]

17. They are very angry and bitter

They are really angry at democrats too.

[Lost147]

19. he has the right and I respect him for using it.

I'm just glad to see there is somone besides the Democrats or Republicans at there that is not a force to be taken lightly. Who knows, if we're lucky enough Naders determination could bring in a 3rd party. More choices=always good.

[Cheswick2.0]

20. He's an ego driven idiot...but even he has a right

Which NO ONE has ever denied. We also have a right to say what we think of him for running.
More choices is not always good.

[fujiyama]

23. HAHA

Enough Naderites for what? His name recognition is near 100%.

He got 2.7% last time, far short of the 5% the GP wanted for matching funds -- and much less than Perot's 20% in '96.

Nader doesn't have the broad based appeal that Perot had so it's unlikely his supporters will have any positive impact on this race or future races in anyway.

No one is disputing his right to run. What bothers most of us are his lies.

[LisaL]

33. Perot was good for democrats.

took away republican votes.

[fujiyama]

39. True

to some extent. While Perot took more votes from Bush than he did from Clinton, it can be argued he took votes from him as well.

I would be willing to bet that more democrats voted for Perot than voted for Nader.

Perot actually BEAT major party candidates in '92. He beat Bush Sr in Maine and beat Clinton in Utah. In Maine he got about a third of the vote.

Nader's best performance was probably in Alaska, where he got 10% of the vote. Sure that's impressive for a third party candidate, but it's nothing compared to Perot and it did nothing in changing the outcome of the state.

Ultimately, Nader's base is very small and the last election was peculiar in its closeness. Nader himself is a fringe candidate and has no broad based support. If a third party were to have taken off, it more likely would have with someone like Perot (who also had a huge ego) rather than someone like Nader.

[The Zanti Regent]

25. Tell that to my Jon

Jon lies bedridden in Walter Reed, a 23 year old quadraplegic from an Iraqui bullet.

He's there thanks to that pig Ralph Nader.

Gore would not have sent him to war, but Ralph's pal, President Asshole did.

Nader can go to hell.

[saracat]

29. And I suppose you respect him for helping put the moron in the WH?

And I suppose you would continue to respect him if his votes help put Bush back in the WH? How can anyone justify that position?

[LisaL]

31. If Bush is elected again (with Nader's help)

We might end up with one party, not three.

[Demonaut]

47. "Selected" not elected, the supreme court gave him the presidency

we need to grammatically correct here

[mac56]

48. Welcome, Lost147

Stick around, you'll learn a lot.

[hughee99]

46. Unpatriotic?

The repukes call us unpatriotic, and we say bullshit! I don't know how many times I've heard that "dissent IS patriotism". I don't agree that dissent is always patriotism, but certainly, it can be patriotism. In any case, to use the argument that we so often make, who are you to question the patriotism of Nader supporters?

Now, having said all of that, I do agree that Nader supporters might be insane.

[realFedUp]

18. Maybe he got the same call Bush got....

satan's extra busy these days...

[LisaL]

30. Nader-

Devil's little helper.

[UnderPaidMinion]

21. We may dislike his actions here but...

Would any of us deny him his right to enter the race? If you had the power to deny him his bid for office would you enforce it?

[MaryBear]

22. No, but

I wish his behavior was more constructive, that's for sure!

[fujiyama]

24. I would deny it

if the signatures were invalid.

[Dr Fate]

26. I would ask him to help us fight Bush.

And I would still love him to do the right thing this year. We should be fighting this threat as a team.

[LisaL]

27. Don't count on it

Actually, he is very angry with democrats. More so than with republicans.
He isn't going to help democrats one bit.
Every day he wines of how democrats are trying to keep him off the ballot.

[Dr Fate]

28. Who knows? I believe in redemption. n/t

n/t

[prolesunited]

41. Is anybody saying he does NOT have the right?

What we are saying that for the good of the country, and the world for that matter, he should step aside.

Also, the fact that the GOP has helped with the petition drives and his donating money to him — and he gladly accepts their help — makes me think he is less than a true believer as he allows himself to be used as a tool of the RW.

So, who will you be voting for?

[Demonaut]

49. in a New York minute, he knows that if bush is selected again

that he might have a shot in 2008, but most dems will never forgive him if he siphons off votes from Kerry, He hasnt a chance in hell to ever EVER be president, he has no one in congress no one in the senate no major CEO's support him. He's out to punish the US for only having a two party system and denying him the chance to be president.

[WindRavenX]

32. note to Ralph:

Piss off.
Your actions have consequences. Do you want America to be America, or do you want it to be Bush's America?

[nodehopper]

34. what PISSES ME OFF

what pisses me off about Nader with his squeaky Nadelogue is the fact that he'll go on Bill Maher and admit that Kerry would be better than David Dukkke, but contitnues his
tweedle-dee/dweedle-tumb fallacy when it comes to Bush and Kerry.  Yes, Kerry is reactionary, hawkish and in general the worst Democratic candidate I could have hoped for (with the exception of Joe Lieberman, but he's about as Democratic as CRAZY Zell Miller), but he is not a PNACer.  And as Chomsky said about PNACers, "they are not conservatives, they are radical reactionaries."  So when Nader supporters point to Kerry's refusal to campaign on a promise ofwithdrawal from Iraq, and make ideological fartknockery like "there is no differenc between the two" to me that says that they don't care about
the actual number of people who will be killed in Bush's Four More Wars! plan.
Ralph Nader is a hypocritical egomaniacal narcissist.

[LisaL]

35. This election isn't really about Kerry for me

I like Kerry and my views are mostly similar to his- But
it's about Bush and getting rid of him for me.
And Nader is an egotistical maniac if he wants to put this country trough 4 more years of Bush. How many people would die because of Nader's enormous ego? How many people already died because of it?

[nodehopper]

50. exactly!

we disagree on Kerry personally, but we agree on the important part. this election is about getting Bush the hell out of the White House. that's why I get so annoyed when Nader-lovers all think that all us registered democrats are blinded by Kerry as the Great White Hope. so not true! case in point: you like him, I don't, but we will both vote and campaign for him because that's the only important and responsible thing to do in this election.

[allalone]

36. and besides that

Corvairs weren't all that bad. Think Pinto.

[Piperay]

38. Don't hold your breath Ralphie

President Kerry is not going to offer you anything except hopefully a one way ticket out of the country. :puke:

[gatlingforme]

40. He must have many noses. or many faces, Nader keeps cutting

his nose to spite his many faces.

[Neshanic]

42. In related news, Nader trademarks "Gonadal politics"

[Rambis]

43. thanks Ralph as in puke!

Bobby Weir said it best... "Don't vote for nadar he is an asshole"

[Sparkle]

44. What makes this rat bastard believe that Kerry would offer him a job?

If he was offered one before the election to persuade him to drop out, and he said no...then the hell with you!

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

45. He can't back out.

Not without getting his legs broken, anyway.