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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 01:55 PM
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Bush Confident Congress Will Now Expedite Energy Bill
By BRIAN KNOWLTON with MARK J. PRENDERGAST


WASHINGTON, Aug. 19 — Five days after the power failure that blacked out all or part of eight states and two Canadian provinces, President Bush said today that Congressional Republicans had assured him that a conference committee would begin work within 20 days on a final package of energy legislation.

Speaking near his vacation ranch in Crawford, Tex., Mr. Bush told reporters that he spoke by telephone Monday night with two crucial Republican lawmakers on energy issues — Sen. Pete V. Domenici of New Mexico and Representative Billy Tauzin of Louisiana — and that they had assured him they could reach an agreement on the hard-fought energy legislation.

The president said he was "very confident" that the legislation would include mandatory standards on reliability, including penalties if electricity suppliers failed to reliably provide power.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/19/politics/19CND-BUSH.html
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:00 PM
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1. If Blackout =rape of Alaska, the Dems can forget about 04
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 02:01 PM by papau
If the Electric grid and other stuff is split from Alaska - go for it.

But, damn it, don't give an inch if Bush just uses the usual not my fault - it is the Dem's fault - logic to convince the Dems to let it pass.

I have had it with pink tutu Dems.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:01 PM
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2. So has Orrin been told to lay off the judges
and get something done.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:01 PM
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3. I'm laying in a supply of candles. No drilling in ANWR.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:11 PM
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4. Oh we are so screwed
They'll use this bill to get everything they want, rape Alaska, rape Appalachia, rape the coast of Florida, deregulate, raise prices and give us the biggest screwing of our life.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:13 PM
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5. Florida coast is safe (J.E.B.)
California coast will be raped!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:17 PM
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9. that is their MO
put a "nice" bill out there, but fill it with pork!
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:15 PM
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6. In other words...
...another GOP/corporate-manufactured crisis is meant to force through legislation they've been trying to get all along anyway.

How many times are we going to let them get away with the same manipulative tactics before we expose them for the plundering thugs they are and stop them??

:grr:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:01 PM
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23. yep
wonder what cushy reward the ceo of first energy will get.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:16 PM
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7. i wonder what ELSE is in this bill
that is hidden....*ush really enjoys doing this (see: amber alert bill) :grr:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:55 PM
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15. 50 nuclear power plants
Just so's you know. And I don't think any method of storing or dealing with the waste either.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:01 PM
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16. More deregulation
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:17 PM
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8. Yes let's ram it down our throats before the source is fully investigated
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:25 PM
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10. bush*/FirstEnergy blackout plan worked....mission accomplished!
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 02:27 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
yup! if the dems fight cheney's energy bill now they will be labeled "obstructionists" AGAIN....will they rollover?

and i'm suppose to believe that iraqi terrorist killed the only man that could help end their US occupation>>>Sergio de Mello

"Never again will I trust anyone in power. I start from the immediate assumption that they are lying, and the burden is then on them to convince me that they are telling the truth." -- Michael Moore >>

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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:28 PM
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12. Imagine the lights going out right now
what with the UN Baghdad Headquarters being bombed and yet another bombing in Israel. There could very well be panic, with no National Guard to call to the rescue.

The fixes the Bush has gotten the US into boggle the mind. It's like the country is one huge disaster waiting to happen.

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:33 PM
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13. Almost everything bad that happens seems to be a political gain
for this Administration. "How convenient." Now isn't that special?"
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 07:35 PM
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21. that and a new tax cut
so the energy companies will have some spending money in their pockets for new power lines. :eyes:
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:27 PM
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11. what a fortunate coincidence, that we just had a 'crisis'
funny how that always works for this bunch...
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:24 PM
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17. Perhaps...
it's time for a pre-emptive strike of our own. Like letting our representaive know that we're hip to this crisis=gain game and if they roll over on the energy bill, we'll take it to the street?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:53 PM
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14. BushCo's energy bill pays the very folks who caused the blackout (n/t)
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:35 PM
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18. OK
So how do we get across to people the ties between First Energy and the Bush's to see how they're trying to play us.

It's been the same with everything. Even if they don't cause these events (Still not sure on that count :tinfoilhat: ) they certainly know how to capitalize on them. They had plans for the Afghanistan pipeline, Iraq and the Patriot Act ready to go just waiting for the right moment to strike.
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:53 PM
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19. Once again, MIHOP does the job for the BFEE.
Like so many low-IQ thugs, the BFEE has a M.O, and they stick to it.

And that's how so many thugs get caught -- they stick to their MO, they do it again & again, and sooner or later they get caught.

And when the BFEE gets caught, I hope the Dems have the guts to pin all their other MIHOP crimes on them. From 9/11 on.

Vitruvius
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:55 PM
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20. The computer deleted my post
House bill
Senate bill

Check out Title IV of Division C in the House bill. :scared:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 09:35 PM
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22. Trifecta Twice!
I foresee another midnight session in Congress behind closed doors with the thumbscrews. Let's see, who's the head of the Energy committee?
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:11 AM
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24. This is such an important Bill
And you can bet this republican bunch of thugs have it set up where middle america will take yet another one up the wazoo. It's important we first learn what's against us in the Energy Bill and then write our congressmen in protest. I know last year's Bill included nationwide deregulation, tax incentives and govt subsidies to energy companies, as well as give the Feds control over imminent domain, instead of each individual state having that power. Several neighbors and I personally fought a battle a couple of years ago where the local utility company wanted to build more power lines across our land. The power lines weren't needed because demand was being amply met and the utility company was out to make more money for just themselves. If they had won, I would be seeing power lines strung across my property, and they would have been without benefit to my community. I can't imagine how difficult the battle would have been if I had to fight the Feds for imminent domain rights instead of my local officials. America needs to wake up and see what these monsters are trying to pull off.
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