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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:41 PM
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House backs Bush on overtime rules
WASHINGTON (AP)


The House voted Thursday to let the Bush administration move ahead with proposed rules that could stop at least 644,000 white-collar workers from receiving overtime pay, heeding a White House veto threat and taking the side of business in its battle against unions.

Lawmakers voted 213-210 to reject a Democratic provision that would have derailed the regulations. Unless Congress prevents it, the proposed rules could take effect later this year.

Senate Democrats had been planning a similar effort to block the regulations. But with the outcome in the House vote, such an effort in the Senate would seem to be little more than a political statement.

The House vote was a victory for President Bush and Congress' Republican leaders. ---

Banish bush From Texas Too
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I AM SPARTACUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 05:46 PM
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1. I guess that House rePubs are not interested in being re-elected...
maybe they know something we don't know...
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 05:49 PM
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2. major winning issue for the Dems . . .
if they'll run with it . . . given past experience, I'll believe it when I see it . . .
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 05:49 PM
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3. Well All the Republicans Swallow that one! They Voted them in!
I know Republicans that are LIVID with this!! I mean LIVID

I can't Wait for Bush to get attacked on this one!

:bounce:
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 05:52 PM
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4. 12 not voting
Including 7 Dems. Their votes may have made a difference. Are you listening Dick Gephardt?
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:44 PM
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8. Gephardt?
Hope he isn't expecting Union endorsements.
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AnAmerican Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:04 PM
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15. Kucinich voted for the workers
Bet some of the unions shy away from Gep now...towards the man who actually does his job in the House.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 05:53 PM
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5. If this is HR 2660, here's the vote:
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:23 PM
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6. I guess this is the Obey Amdt.
http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2003&rollnumber=351

naturally, my Repuke congressman voted "no". I'm scoring this one (:thumbsup: )

NOT VOTING:
Cramer
Gibbons
Millender-McDonald
Fletcher
Goss
Owens
Fossella
Harman
Payne
Gephardt
Houghton
Sanchez, Loretta

We may have had the votes on this one if everyone had been there...
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:49 PM
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9. So Mr Workingman's Best Friend Gephardt ditched the vote, huh?
This isn't gonna get him the brownie points he thinks he deserves from labor. Even Jan Schakowsky says he's a really nice guy but frankly I think he's a total dipshit.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:01 PM
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12. The republicans had at least 14 more votes and maybe 19
they could have used if necessary. No vote would have been allowed unless the republican leadership had the necessary votes in the bag.
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:12 PM
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18. Yeah, that's right.
Besides, this issue works better for the Dems if it festers the way the minimum-wage debate did in 1996.
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:08 PM
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17. Tell me again ...
Why we're supposed to be pissed off at Tom Delay screwing Hall and Stenholm out of their Texas "Democratic" seats in the House?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:32 PM
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7. Do you remember when the House represented the working stiff?
I don't either.
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TeamsterDem Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:03 PM
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10. Gephardt just lost my vote. Seriously.
It's a dark day for the American worker. Now that a projected 8 million people will be disallowed from earning overtime, hopefully people will begin to see what Republican leadership is doing "for" ("to" more accurately) this country.

Thanks for not voting, Gep! Boy, sure wouldn't want to "tear" you away from your precious campaign for something as 'trivial' as a vote on overtime. Oh well, now you'll have one less supporter to worry about.

Any recommendations on a strong pro-labor candidate?
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:39 PM
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11. Didn't Gepehardt already win a few labor indorcments?
I don't know why they did it. And things like this make me wonder why they did it.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:13 PM
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13. Sad day for working class Americans
I have done much harrassing of my friends via e mail on this issue and to see SEVEN Democrats sit this vote out REALLY ticks me off. Had they bothered to get out of their comfortable millionaire estates this vote probably would not have taken place.

Working Americans lost this vote because SEVEN people were too concerned with how they appear to the corporate contributors than what WORKERS think of them.

As far as Gephardt being a friend of the worker, that is a joke! One of his primary contributors is Anheuser Busch and trust me they don't contribute to him because they are pro union. As a matter of fact one of my friends was fired from AB for union organizing.

If this does not send the message that working Americans are taken for granted by DLC Democrats like Gephardt and LIEberman then what will? How many times must workers take it on the chin before we begin looking elsewhere for representation?

Can't wait to see how the St. Louis Post Disgrace glosses over Gephardt's no show on this vote. I will work on writing a letter to the editor about it that's for sure. I am also contacting Gephardt's office in St Louis to let them know of my unhappiness.

Union members aren't the only ones concerned about overtime pay. MOST American workers are not in a union and most do work overtime. I work in the insurance industry and work an average of six hours per week of overtime and have worked more in the past. At one job we had 30 hours a month of MANDATORY overtime and that lasted for years.

So ticked off I can't think straight.

MJ


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AnAmerican Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:07 PM
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16. Yes, Dennis Kucinich
Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 11:10 PM by AnAmerican

"People have a right to:

A job.
A safe workplace.
Decent wages and benefits.
Organize and be represented.
Grieve about working conditions.
Strike.
Fair compensation for injuries on the job.
Sue if injured by negligent employers.
Security of pension and retirement benefits.
Participate in the political process "



http://www.kucinich.us/issues/issue_rightsworkers.htm

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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:35 PM
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14. Bush bought votes with tax break and sold them with OT
Think your phantom tax break was important? This will feel a whole lot more meaningful when they can no longer afford child care. This will be a huge hit not only for those who are the average working american with families, but for the Bush fan club for whom he has designed a platform called "How can we make more money?"

This is more great PR for an administration that is looking more and more out of touch from the American voter.
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:16 PM
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19. Good. That's 644,000 new Democrats.
Was your puny tax cut worth it?
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