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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:50 AM Original message |
Bush Hints at What He'd Do in Another Term- "new era of ownership" |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. more vague, please, sir, and could we have a side of non-specifics with |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. 'SIR'!, Who you talkin' to! |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. 'New era of ownership' = 'We own you!' |
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ender (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. the "ownership society" has been a goal for a bit... |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Like the days of Morgan, Vanderbilt, and Carnegie? |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. To "Own" Their Health Plan and Retirement? |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Yeah, "own"...What a crock. |
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judge_smales (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:58 AM Original message |
Bush talking about |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
5. "I got it, I got it, nope, I don't got it government." On your own kids. |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
6. Me and my friends will own more of America than ever before |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. But what if I don't WANT to be owned? |
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deminflorida (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. No problem George....so reach in your pocket and give me |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. good point |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
10. The Boss Will Own YOU |
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Hotler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 07:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
92. Damn straight! |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. He's going to use "populist" terms - |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. "new era of ownership" "Is he bringing back slavery and... |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. Campaign 2000 he lied like a rug.... |
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Zech Marquis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. a much more honest answer for this would be |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
15. Notice how the la times gives the chimp a pass on compassionate |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. The LAT is a corporation first..... |
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thecrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. "Employers should facilitate access, not provide benefits." |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. They Own the News, They Own The Country, They Want to Own US |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
19. GoodBye Social Security GoodBye Medicare!!! |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Goodbye retirement! Goodbye overtime! Goodbye 'Golden Years'! |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. That GOP holy grail: Privatization strikes again |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
21. Which means privatizing the entire goverment. |
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skippysmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
23. Kiss your SS, Medicare and health insurance goodbye |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
24. Wow! Don't get too far out on that thar limb, Georgie - wouldn't want |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. bwahahahahaha! bush is really riffin' |
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Catfight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
26. Okay, Bush can start leading by example instead of lip service. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
27. 'Ya mean us fucking slaves get to own something? |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. I am disabled, and mostly too sick to work |
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bleedingedge (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
79. Yeah, but... |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
28. This is their "Jewel" |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. "only a fool would opt for this alternative" |
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Arbustosux (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
29. New Era of Ownership = Bringing back Slavery |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
31. "Ownership Society" means "Undo the New Deal" ... |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
32. Yeah, where some Americans "own" the others. I wish I was in the land of |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
34. Bush still talking outta the side of his neck. All Rubbish....Nincompoop! |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
35. Bush still talking outta the side of his neck. All Rubbish....Nincompoop! |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
36. You are owned!!! |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
37. What lame ass bullshit |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
39. A return to 1929-- in more ways than one |
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NJGeek (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
40. Notwithstanding the total lack of credibility ... |
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OK_DemX2 (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
41. Facilitate Access?? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
42. That is so much bullcrap that wouldn't work. |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
43. I have no doubt that there will be new Medicare and Social |
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bobbyboucher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
44. Slave ownership. |
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recidivist (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
47. Be careful folks. A majority of the public favors S.S. personal accounts. |
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drscm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Get real! Bush has already proved that Medicare Reform |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 06:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. i doubt that a majority of americans believe any |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. I disagee - the same payouts could be possible via SS life Insurance |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Maybe in theory, but it takes honest corporations and I don't see many... |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. We're not afraid of the idea |
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recidivist (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. I.e., you will support full funding as soon as a DEMOCRAT proposes it? |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
65. this is why |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:19 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Excellent article :-) |
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recidivist (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 09:28 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. It's a lengthy evasion. |
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The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 10:32 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. So where's the money going to come from? |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. it tells me that a lot of people under 40 do not understand investing... |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 11:59 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Well that sounds good on paper but let me give ya reality |
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recidivist (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. You live in a very strange alternative reality. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 05:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Well I haven't reviewed any |
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recidivist (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 06:36 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. How it would work. |
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recidivist (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 07:14 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Health insurance. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 08:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. Also |
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mulethree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
82. Sounds a lot more expensive |
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InkAddict (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
49. Yup, you bet |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
53. Does he mean slavery? |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
54. Can you say "Social Darwinism"? |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. It didn't work in 1800's England |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. No |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Lets see how many freepers remain freepers |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. You're correct |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Bush's base: |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. That's his base but isn't sad how so many others "think" they're his base? |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Bushco* has a brilliant strategy really |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 08:02 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I like the way you phrase things |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
84. Bingo! Early 19th Century England (and 19th Century US) ... |
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Jazzgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
61. It means they intend to turn the US into a |
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scottxyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
62. "Ownership" is the latest Republican stealth word |
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gatlingforme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. hee, hee, that's good. I found "ownership" so indicative of their |
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LiveWire (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
70. what the f.... |
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demoman123 (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
76. Most Americans own nothing at all. |
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recidivist (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
87. That's a great pity. Reforming Social Security would change that fast. |
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demoman123 (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 07:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Yep. If those private accounts had been available four years ago... |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 08:42 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. It's legal for companies to do "bait and switch" |
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OETKB (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
77. The White House Conduit |
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Imalittleteapot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
78. We want to own |
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CBHagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
80. Translation: More tax breaks for those with disposable income. |
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InkAddict (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
81. What's that old edumacation saying, You are what you learn? |
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digno dave (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
83. The more I own the happier I'll be, goddammit!!! |
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Rob in B_more (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
85. I wonder who is going to own me? ...Haliburton, Murdoch, |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
94. You know |
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