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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 05:47 PM
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Episcopal Bishops Target Of Anti-Gay Hate Mail Campaign
http://www.365gay.com/NewsContent/081503bishopHate.htm

Episcopal bishops who supported Gene Robinson in his bid to be the faith's first gay bishop are being targeted in a vicious hate campaign.

The campaign is also aimed at some bishops who voted against the appointment of Robinson as bishop of New Hampshire.

Bishop, David C. Bane Jr. of Virginia said he has received about 150 "hateful" messages in the week since the Episcopal General Convention's decision, even though he voted in the minority. One e-mail closed with "See you in hell."

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 05:54 PM
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1. probably from those who call themselves "Christian"
sad.
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pw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 05:56 PM
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2. Some bigots aren't too bright
Or perhaps they think that voting against the ordination wasn't enough.
Stupid vile scum.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 05:59 PM
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3. Well, they got one thing right . . .
saying, "see you in hell" implies the letter writers will be in the right place. Perhaps just making the wrong assumption, in thinking the Episcopals will be there with them.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 06:21 PM
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4. "See you in hell"?
Uh, if you get there first, wear a pink carnation so I'll know it's you. Sheesh, which word in "Love one another" is so hard to understand?

That having been said, this is a spasm, a backlash. It will not last much beyond the next month or two, and as Mr. Robinson settles into his new duties, people that aren't around him every day will forget what it is they're so mad about this week. Weather the squall and sail out the other side. Calmer waters await.
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sierrak9s Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 06:28 PM
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5. Well...
I don't agree with hate mail, BUT...
As a gay person, I hate like hell to see Bishop Robinson get a free pass for adultery and abandonment. If he'd left his wife and kids for another woman, he would be rightly pilloried. But because he left his wife and kids for a MAN, he's a moral paragon. Bleccch.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 06:31 PM
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6. Adultery?
My understanding is that Robinson and his wife divorced (and they're still amicable) before he met his partner. Do you have a link or some facts to back up your assertion that "he left his wife and kids for a MAN"? That locution, by the way, seems to augur against your being a gay person . . .
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sierrak9s Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:14 PM
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7. My understanding...
is the exact opposite, that he was married and left his wife and kids to be with a man. Now, whether that particular man became his partner, or whether his partner is a subsequent love interest, I hadn't considered and don't know. And now, darnit, I'm going to investigate further because you've made me question my understanding on all this.
And my own partner of 11 years (registered in California thankyouverymuch) would vouch for my augur. :)
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:19 PM
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8. His wife and he are still on good terms...
...and the divorce was due to the understanding that he was GAY. If he up and "left her for a man" and she were convinced that the situation could be otherwise, why would they be on good terms?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:39 PM
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9. doesn't bother me
all relationships go through changes -- some stay together some do not. that is life. holding people to the ''letter of the law'' while not tliving the ''spirit of the law'' themselves is wrong.
live and let live -- his wife at the time understood the stituation and they came to their own understanding -- which is what counts.
this is the 21st century and we are still trying to comment on other peoples marriages and relationships -- all the while living our own imperfect lives. really -- we need to grow up.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:00 PM
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10. He had already divorced his wife before taking up
with his partner.

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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:12 PM
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11. I heard they divorced before he met his partner
In fact, he said that his ex-wife remarried before he met his partner. I have no link, but I did hear him say that on a TV interview.
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 12:37 AM
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14. You seem to know nothing about Robinson
Edited on Sat Aug-16-03 12:46 AM by Paschall
Which as a "gay person" is pretty amazing, given the historical importance of Robinson's recent election to the bishopric. Or you've only been listening to Jerry Falwell and Pat Buchanan. Do an internet search. Robinson has given several long and revealing interviews and he talks frankly about his married life, his break up, his children and his partner--who is an active member of the church and a real partner to Robinson in his priestly duties.
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sierrak9s Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 11:31 AM
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16. Perfectly possible
that I know less than I think I do, and if I'm wrong, I'll happily applaud his accession. But "as a gay person," who considers herself an ethnic Catholic, I don't follow the Episcopal Church and her foibles very closely. "Catholic lite," don't you know. ;)
So as I said previously, I will do an internet search to see if I'm wrong about this. Thanks for your comments and enlightenment.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:35 PM
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12. Some people in this country...
have a pretty strong obsession with what goes on in other people's sex lives. I consider them to be pretty sick. Apparently, with them, it doesn't matter what else you do in life, as long as sex is with a hetero partner, in the dark, in missionary position.

These people need a lot of therapy to untwist their warped psyches.
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Section_43 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:51 PM
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13. I joined the Episcopal church to escape
these very attitudes.

I was raised in a so. baptist church (shivers)

I joined the "thinking man's church" after I married my wife.

Apparently this same backlash occurred when this librul church allowed women to become priests.

All I have to say is, "Forgive them, Father, they know not what they do."
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 12:43 AM
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15. Not surprising
Edited on Sat Aug-16-03 12:47 AM by Paschall
...when "Christian" leaders are at the head of the hate campaign. Did you see this comment from Pat Buchanan comparing Robinson's election to a desecration of the altar, and comparing Robinson personally to a whore?

"To see Robinson elevated to bishop is to be reminded that in the French Revolution, the Paris mob used the high altar at Notre Dame Cathedral to canonize the town tramp as their Goddess of Reason."

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