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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:31 AM
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Red Cross Fears U.S. Is Hiding Detainees
GENEVA July 13, 2004 — The international Red Cross said Tuesday that it fears U.S. officials are holding terror suspects secretly in locations across the world.

The Geneva Conventions on the conduct of warfare require the United States to give the Red Cross access to prisoners of war and other detainees.
"We have access to people detained by the United States in Guantanamo Bay, Afghanistan and Iraq, but in our understanding there are people that are detained outside these places for which we haven't received notification or access," said Antonella Notari, a spokeswoman for the International Committee of the Red Cross.

-snip-

But Notari told The Associated Press that some suspects reported as arrested by the FBI on its Web site, or identified in media reports, are unaccounted for.

"Some of these people who have been reported to be arrested never showed up in any of the places of detention run by the U.S. where we visit," Notari said.

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An Army report on the abuses at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison found that military police there "routinely held persons brought to them by Other Government Agencies without accounting for them, knowing their identities, or even the reason for their detention."

On at least one occasion they moved these "ghost detainees" around the prison to hide them from a visiting Red Cross delegation, the report by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba said. He described the actions as "deceptive, contrary to Army Doctrine, and in violation of international law."

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040713_348.html
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:34 AM
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1. Totally shameless administration. And then they get upset because
they are called fascists.
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:44 AM
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2. What goes around, comes around
Bush will never be welcomed anywhere outside of his small, cloistered, kool-aid drinker communities....In EVERY country on the planet he is ridiculed, laughed at and despised. He may think he's a real tough guy but in fact he is becoming so marginalized that he has no where to go after November. Look at Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter - always globe-trotting and welcomed as ambassadors of good will. That will never be bush. Never.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:40 PM
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13. Bush would not care, he has no use for common people, third
world nations, nations with differing opinions. he is going to count all the money he made in office and then start calling in his favors that he has given to his "friends" while he was in office.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:29 AM
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3. This is outrageous if true. And I am inclined to believe it. Why would
anyone think it is not true with the track record of this administration. That is how far we have come with Bush and the neocon PNAC crowd. Mr. Bush, at long last, have you no shame?
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 10:09 AM
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4. Hope the Red Cross finds them
Before the election, not after.
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fsbooks Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 10:10 AM
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5. well duh...
We know that for a fact. I am so glad that the Red Cross has decided to moderate its generally private behind the scenes activism and annouce the truth (if in veiled terms) to the world.
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Sivafae Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 10:14 AM
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6. As if the detainees in Gitmo don't bother me enough
There has to be this as well. I am highly distrurbed.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:01 AM
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7. History shows "secret detention = torture". eom
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:34 AM
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8. Bump
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 11:35 AM by kayell
:puke: :cry: :scared: :nuke:
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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:38 AM
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9. I am not surprised ...
given what I already know. Enough said. :(

:dem: :kick:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:56 AM
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10. per the August 2002 memo signed by
Alberto Gonzales on his letterhead - but supposedly written by Lewis Libby - this administration is not bound by the Constitution nor international treaties.

If anyone believes that anything has changed because this has come to light, please advise me of solid factual changes.

Until then, I remain a person with no country, Constitution or faith in the rule of law.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:10 PM
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11. The Nazis' Concentration Camps were kept quiet by Hitler too.
These "Detention Centers" seem more and more like toned down "Concentration Camps", to me. Hitler kept his "Concentration Camps" quiet also. Many Germans didn't believe he even had them (and many "Holocaust deniers" (Nazis?), still don't believe they existed).
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:21 PM
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12. Which unquestionably they ARE
God, living beneath the rule of a Tyrant like Bunnypants* is so...dirty.
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