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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:31 PM Original message |
Senate Passes Gay Hate Bill |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good news! |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. it's not my headline |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. That's what I was afraid of too, wryter |
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zanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thank God. |
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Cambist (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. WOW |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. Nice for gays and transsexuals. |
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Doctor Smith (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. And then we can add men, and everyone will be protected. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. you need to make a date with some crime statistics. |
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Doctor Smith (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I'm not sure what you mean. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. less likely to be victims BECAUSE they are male? yes, |
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Doctor Smith (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 09:46 AM Response to Reply #50 |
89. I didn't really understand your reply, but men are more likely |
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NewJerseyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
84. Gender is included |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Voting no....NOTE McCain next time he is touted as VP |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I do not see Zell Miller's name on the list |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Zell voted Yes. Go figure. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. He probably thought the vote was on whether or not they hate gays |
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ncrainbowgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
51. An audible gasp could be heard from the chamber after Zell spoke... |
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ncrainbowgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. dupe. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
35. I was wondering the same thing. |
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Mikimouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Strictly speaking as a Texan... |
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dedhed (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. What a horrible roll-call... |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
49. wonder what else was tacked onto the bill...... |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. I see Allard voted no. |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. That former veterinarian |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. That's about as "bipartisan" as Ann Coulter. (nt) |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. The yes votes were nopartasian. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
87. The Yes republican votes, with the exception of |
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mike1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. Well at least there are no (D-xx)s on the 'no' list... |
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LizW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. Both Alabama Senators on the "no" list |
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TeeYiYi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
59. Hatch is such a jackass. ...n/t |
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crossroads (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 08:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. I see that, yet not unexpected that he would vote lockstep... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. I wonder if I am the only pro-gay marriage, pro-gay civil rights laws... |
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Political_Junkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. No your not, |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Sorry, I don't follow your logic. |
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Political_Junkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I think to most people, yes. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. And how is this going to change their minds? |
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Political_Junkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. I already said I agreed with you. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
42. Committing a crime against someone |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. any lawyers out there? I just remembered the "homosexual |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
74. Find me a case where this actually occurred. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Old wives did not discuss homosexuality, I'm sure. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. So you'd rather make things up than actually discuss the issue. |
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Peregrine (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. No you're not |
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dedhed (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It's a scary world in which we live... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. How is this forcing anyone to be nice to anyone else? |
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dedhed (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. It's an incentive... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. An incentive? |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. It bothers me also, but |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. How is that? |
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Burma Jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. That bothers me too |
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DavidMS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
86. I certanly see the moral standard point... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. Excuse me, wasn't motivation for a crime always a factor in sentencing? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Perhaps. Was it enshrined in law like this? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. It's somewhat alarming to me, too. |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Sometimes you have to lead |
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orthogonal (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. You're not the only -- I agree |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. Thought crime? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
72. And we already have laws dealing with how they manifest thoughts. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Obviously, I don't think it is unnecessary. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. How is this going to prevent any crime. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 10:09 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Do you realize how insulting you are? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #85 |
90. The pot calling the kettle black. |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
20. It's about time. |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
33. Great news! |
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kerrycrat2k4 (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
53. I agree |
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slutticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
46. Excellent!!!! n/t |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
47. Awesome! n/t |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
54. I'm against hate crimes laws. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Name one person jailed for a thought. One.n/t |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I never claimed anyone was jailed for a thought.... |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Poor, poor little felon. |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:19 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. killing someone in self defense should not be a crime. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. You want me to feel sorry for a skinhead? |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. In a way, I understand,...but,..."targeting" a "unique" person carries,... |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. but we are all unique, just like everyone else... |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. I would think that a ruling such as this provides for more |
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gator_in_Ontario (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. And hate crime legislation punishes |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. perhaps you should read post 60. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I guess thoughts should be a protected group, since |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. well they say that two wrongs dont make a right. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Deleted message |
HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Where's the bigotry? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. These posters only show up to defend similar positions. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:51 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. You called him bigoted based on an assumption you can't make. |
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bear425 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
55. kick |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
56. Kick! |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
69. So what is the House version of this bill? |
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NewJerseyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. The vote was an amendment to the DOD authorization bill |
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Northwind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-04 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
70. Good news |
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missedherniceguy (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
88. No thanks to Kerry |
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