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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 03:17 PM
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"Israeli terror suspect falls; cops eye link to al-Qaeda" (Philippines)
In Baguio City: Israeli terror suspect falls; cops eye link to al-Qaeda

by ARIS ILAGAN
Manilla Bulletin Online, June 13

Philippine National Police (PNP) operatives apprehended an Israeli suspected to be a member of the al-Qaeda terror network in in Baguio City on June 7. Arrested was Mera Doutvsky.

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Police said the information they received from the Bureau of Immigration revealed that Doutvsky is a suspected member of the al-Qaeda terrorist cell, an information still unconfirmed by other intelligence agencies.

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The arrest came following an announcement by the Australian government that terrorists have entered Indonesia from the Philippines in recent weeks to plan a new strategy on assassinating diplomats in lieu of bombing western targets.

The suspect was held on Thursday at Pier 18, North Harbor, Manila allegedly trying to ship seven boxes of explosives, including blasting caps and rolls of detonating cord and fuses.

http://www.mb.com.ph/PROV2004061411759.html
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 03:22 PM
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1. Big surprise-Israeli al-mossada member.
Wake up, world!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 03:27 PM
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2. Wake up, "anti-zionists!"
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?section=METRO&oid=53139

<snip>

The Bureau of Immigration on Monday clarified that the Israeli woman arrested in Baguio City last week is not a member of the al-Qaeda terror group but is being held for violations of immigration laws.


Immigration Commissioner Alipio Fernandez Jr. said the bureau was not the source of newspaper reports that tagged Israeli Mera Doutvsky as a suspected terrorist.

<snip>

<snip>
The bureau reported that the Israeli had been under the care of the DSWD for quite some time as she had become financially distressed.


Doutvsky was not arrested in a joint operation by the police and immigration agents as reported.

<snip>

Wearing tinfoil before Labor Day is a big fashion faux pas.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 03:47 PM
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3. As expected: a speedy deportation and let's speak no more of it.
As with all the Israeli "movers" arrested for suspicious behaviour throughout the United States since, and including, Sept 11th. It's as if they never happened.

"The suspect was held on Thursday at Pier 18, North Harbor, Manila allegedly trying to ship seven boxes of explosives, including blasting caps and rolls of detonating cord and fuses."

Right. But she's in violation of immigration law.

Sounds like the local authorities stumbled onto something they weren't supposed to, felt some heat from high above, and began to back peddle. Happens all the time. Ask the DEA.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 03:48 PM
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4. Either that,
or the first report was in error.

But that wouldn't support a conspiracy theory, so it can't be right.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 07:24 PM
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13. So have we averted another terrorist strike..
meant for the Philippines?
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 03:48 PM
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5. Right, Israelis can do no wrong.
Sharon is a great humanitarian etc.

And challenging the Likud is anti-semetic. Please.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 03:59 PM
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7. Where did I say that?
I just urged people to realize that not every rumor one reads from publications like the "american free press" about Israel is true.

:tinfoilhat:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 04:01 PM
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8. The story appeared in "Manilla Bulletin Online", not
"American Free Press."
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 04:08 PM
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9. The comment wasn't directed at you, but
there are those who get their "anti-zionism" news there.

No real evidence that the woman was an AQ terrorist.


Regarding Meiring--yeah he looks to be a bad guy, and I have no doubt the FBI wanted to have a few words with him. However, I don't see how that substantiates the claim that the US government committed the bombings in Manila. Or is Abu Sayyaf just a figment of people's imaginations?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 06:16 PM
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10. No, Abu Sayyaf is not a "figment of people's imaginations." But it is,
like Al Qaeda, a well-penetrated intelligence asset of the United States' national security apparatus.

From "The United States in the Philippines: post-9/11 imperatives" by Larry Chin:

"In the nature of a well-led intelligence operation," Chossudovsky writes, " the 'intelligence asset' operates (wittingly or unwittingly) with some degree of autonomy, in relation to its US government sponsors, but ultimately it acts consistently, in the interests of Uncle Sam." Simply put, the CIA runs terrorist groups all the time without them having any clue that the CIA is setting them up and funding them.

Likewise, the Abu Sayyaf is a creation of the United States and its CIA—and continue to serve the geostrategic purposes of the United States government, which directly and indirectly controls their operations. Abu Sayyaf was founded by remnants of the Islamist mujahadeen, bankrolled and manipulated by the CIA, the Pakistani ISI, and elements of Saudi Arabia's wealthy elite during the jihad against the Soviet Union. According to John Cooley, author of Unholy Wars, Abu Sayyaf was the last of the seven Afghan guerrilla groups to be organized late in the war—in 1986 or three years before the Soviets withdrew.

According to Philippine Senator Aquilino Pimentel, Jr., the Abu Sayyaf is a "CIA monster." In a recent speech, Pimentel said, "It is a well-documented fact that the CIA had recruited, trained and funded mujahadeens from among the Moros of Southern Mindanao to fight the Russians."

Bobby Tuazon writes: "The fact remains that since the early 1990s, the group has been involved chiefly in criminal operations while maintaining liaisons with both military and local officials. This is partly the reason why the group refuses to die." Just as the US has inflated the al-Qaeda legend, the US and Philippine officials are playing up the Abu Sayyaf "monster" and its alleged connection to al-Qaeda to justify a bigger US military assistance program and bigger US operations in the Pacific region.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Chin082202/chin082202.html
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 06:20 PM
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11. We live in different realities.
Have a nice day!:hi:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 06:26 PM
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12. Guess we must.
Fair enough :hi:
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 07:36 PM
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15. Only one reality.
Only one truth.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 07:32 PM
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14. Maybe it is?
It is not beyond the US and Isreal to supply the enemy with weapons. It was done by both sides during the Iran Iraq war. the US supplied both Iran and Iraq while Isreal supplied Iran and just about anyone else that wanted to buy arms. Isreal needs to keep the US engaged in the middle east fighting "terrorists" to distract from their acts against humanity.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 03:58 PM
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6. The Philippines and false-flag terror. Heard of Michael Meiring?
Edited on Mon Jun-14-04 03:59 PM by Minstrel Boy
In the Spring of 2002, American national Michael Meiring, a self-described "fortune hunter," was seriously wounded in his Philippine hotel room on the island of Mindanao, when his explosives prematurely exploded. The FBI whisked him out of his hotel room and back to the US before the matter could be investigated. Meiring is suspected of being CIA, and had boasted of it himself, but said it stood for "Christ in Action."

Must read: "The Michael Meiring Mystery"

Part One: "Affront to Philippine sovereignty"
http://www.mindanews.com/2003/05/30nws-meiring01.html

Part Two: "The Second Coming"
http://www.mindanews.com/2003/05/31nws-meiring02.html

Part Three: "The extradition that never was"
http://www.mindanews.com/2003/06/01nws-meiring03.html

What was Meiring doing, blowing himself up in Mindanao?

Well, do you recall the Manilla mutiny of last summer? Junior officers accused Philippine military brass and the Arroyo government of conspiring with the United States in something called "Operation Greenbase", which involved staging recent bombings on the island of Mindanao in order to justify an increased US presence in the country.

Naomi Klein helps tie it together:

Among the soldiers' claims: that senior military officials, in collusion with the Arroyo regime, carried out last March's bombing of the airport of the southern city of Davao, as well as several other attacks. Thirty-eight people were killed in the bombings. The leader of the mutiny, Lieut. Antonio Trillanes, claims to have "hundreds" of witnesses who can testify to the plot.

...

Besides, the soldiers were not the first to accuse the Philippine government of bombing its own people. Days before the mutiny, a coalition of church groups, lawyers and NGOs launched a "fact-finding mission" to investigate persistent rumors that the state was involved in the Davao explosions. It is also investigating the possible involvement of US intelligence agencies.

These suspicions stem from a bizarre incident on May 16, 2002, in Davao. Michael Meiring, a US citizen, allegedly detonated explosives in his hotel room, injuring himself badly. While recovering in the hospital, Meiring was whisked away by two men, who witnesses say identified themselves as FBI agents, and flown to the United States. Local officials have demanded that Meiring return to face charges, to little effect. BusinessWorld, a leading Philippine newspaper, has published articles openly accusing Meiring of being a CIA agent involved in covert operations "to justify the stationing of American troops and bases in Mindanao."

Yet the Meiring affair has never been reported in the US press. And the mutinous soldiers' amazing allegations were no more than a one-day story. Maybe it just seemed too outlandish: an out-of-control government fanning the flames of terrorism to pump up its military budget, hold on to power and violate civil liberties.

Why would Americans be interested in something like that?

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030901&s=klein
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:39 PM
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16. Confusion
This shows how sloppy journalism leads to confusion. Maybe it's an intentionally effort to link Israel with terrorism. There are two independent events.

The Israeli was arrested for visa violation. The second arrest was a suspected terrorist:

Explosive materials plenty enough to sink a passenger shipwere seized by authorities from arrested terrorist suspect Alejandro Aguirre.

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