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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 04:56 AM
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Baghdad suburb 'hit by car bomb'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3769157.stm

Wednesday, 2 June, 2004

At least two people have been killed and about 20 others injured in a car bomb explosion in Baghdad, police say.

Police officer Ali al-Raiby said the blast happened on a busy street in a northern suburb of the Iraqi capital, Reuters news agency reported.


I suppose it's just some people celebrating their new government?



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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 05:00 AM
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1. to be sure....
Edited on Wed Jun-02-04 05:06 AM by leftchick
they are loving dimbulb*'s freedom and democracy.



Iraqis crowd around a car that flipped over when it was hit by an explosion in the north Baghdad suburb of Al Adhamiya June 2, 2004. Witnesses said there were several casualties. Photo by Faleh Kheiber/Reuters
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:30 AM
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2. MSRNC: 4 Dead....
apparently the target was a US Military convoy and they missed....
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:33 AM
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3. No Flowers this Time?
They were trying to welcome the liberators!!!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:45 AM
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5. I think the Iraqi's gave their response yesterday
It came in the form of a mushroom cloud.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 10:20 AM
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 10:31 AM
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9. Since we never manage to catch the folks
that do this shit, I suppose it is hard to tell exactly who did this one. However, so far there is little real proof that it is not Iraqis. Unless of course, you know something we don't know?

As far as politicize for gain? Who yours or mine? I'm not sure where you are coming from with that accusation.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 12:18 PM
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 12:24 PM
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12. Its safe to assume someone who didn't want the US there did it
Why should the US be there anyway

And nice straw man reference to Bill Clinton. Who if he were still President would never unilaterally gotten involved in this sorry ass War.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 12:33 PM
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14. It is not so easy for foreign fighters to infiltratre
Even with loose borders, the Iraqis are good at spotting foreigners, even if they are from Syria, Iran, or Saudi Arabia. Imagine a group of white Americans armed with only rifles and other small arms and explosives trying to infiltrate Cuba to fight, and not be detected or turned in. Unless the Iraqis are supporting the few foreign fighters and hiding them from US patrols, in which case they are just as complicit as the foreign fighters themselves.

And again, according to US generals on the ground, there is little evidence foreign fighters are widely involved:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1119-12.htm

Since no one has claimed responsibility for the bombing, it's a matter of probability. What's more likely, that a few thousand foreign fighters have been able to kill over 800 US soldiers and wound 5000+ more over the course of a year despite taking massive casualties, or that a sizable portion of the Iraqi people are fighting against us?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:19 PM
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16. You seem to like to accuse people of things
while offering zero proof of your own.

From everything that I have read for the last year, most of these attacks are carried out by Iraqis and there has not been a single bit of proof that al Qaeda or foreigners are carrying out these attacks. Everytime the Bu$hCo folks make these claims, they back down shortly afterwards and then they blame it on Saddam loyalists or insurgents.

Besides, since the US is the occupying power it is up to the US to secure the borders. Since, there are only a couple of roads in and out of the country, and we have satellites and aerial surveillance why is this such a hard thing to manage?

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 12:39 PM
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15. Don't bother.. Roughie just wanted to say "rapist" and "Clinton"..
..in the same sentence. Wierd way to start out in a new venue... methinks someone peed in someone's Wheaties this morning, and there's no amount of debating that'll dissuade them.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:49 PM
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17. ADIOS ROUGHIE
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 04:56 PM
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18. so soon?
too late for him to read how even the asshole in chief admits they are not "Terra-ists"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=596832&mesg_id=596832



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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 04:58 PM
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19. Wooo Hooo!
Demdave is gone, too!!! I was wondering when/if that would ever happen!!!
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 11:18 AM
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10. Consider this
In the past year, we have lost 800 US soldiers, with literally thousands upon thousands wounded in combat. Every time there is a major firefight, we keep hearing how we killed 5, 10, 20, 50 Iraqi "insurgents" and a US soldier or two only recieved "minor injuries". However, there are almost never any bodies. Either Iraqis evaporate into thin air when killed, the kill estimates are high, or the Iraqis are able to remove their dead and disappear into the general populace. Imagine the public support and underground infrastructure needed to sustain these fighters like this, even after so many losses. Where do these fighters sleep? Where do they eat? Where do they hide out? Where do they bury their dead? A good portion of the Iraqi population is either actively harboring them, or turning a blind eye to what they are doing because they support their actions. This is assuming the attackers are even native Iraqis. If they are foreign fighters, their problems are compounded many times over. The Iraqi society is a very close-knit one, with foreigners readily apparent to native Iraqis. 25 million planted the bomb? No. But at least several million supported it? Very probable, considering the majority of attacks in Iraq HAVE been carried out by Iraqis, as repeatedly confirmed by the US military generals actually in the battles.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 08:40 AM
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6. this is getting so old saigon....
I imagine July will be just FULL of "fireworks" too. :(
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 12:25 PM
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13. The waters of Nationalism run deep In IRAQ-NAM
Its going to go on for some time to come.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:45 AM
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4. Fear not, it will all cease on June 30, 2004.
:eyes:
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 09:48 AM
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7. becoming an every day occurance. n/t
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