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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:30 PM
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Roy Moore says he won't ask Riley for any favors

Some supporters of ousted Chief Justice Roy Moore have suggested that the perfect candidate to fill his seat on the Alabama Supreme Court would be Roy Moore.

But Moore says he won't ask Republican Gov. Bob Riley for his old job back. He said he asked Riley last year to help him keep the Ten Commandments monument in the Alabama Judicial Building and the governor turned him down.
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Moore's ouster brought a so-called "Ten Commandments slate" of Supreme Court candidates into Tuesday's primary election.

Now Moore supporters have launched an Internet petition drive to urge Riley to reappoint him to the chief justice's seat. Moore was expelled from office for refusing a federal judge's order to move the 5,300-pound granite monument from the rotunda of the judicial building.

http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/040531/moore.shtml

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:34 PM
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1. Also in the news in Alabama!
Man Fired For Wearing Ten Commandments Pin

In a letter to Alabama Attorney General Troy King, Hoover's chamber of commerce gives its reasons for firing an employee who refused to stop wearing a Ten Commandments lapel pin.
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Word claimed the lapel pin was a symbol of his faith. But the chamber contends Word was making a political statement.
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Chamber officials wrote in the statement that the pin distributed by the Foundation for Moral Law, an organization that supports ousted Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, is a political symbol.

The statement last week says, quote, "These have been high-profile political issues."
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http://www.wtvm.com/Global/story.asp?S=1905967&nav=8fapNX3P

Alabama business is apparently not gaga over Roy.

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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:44 PM
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3. Now that's just stupid...
I don't think a guy wearing a ten commandments pin to work is anywhere near the same thing as Roy Moore..
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:17 AM
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5. What's just stupid? I can't make out from your post.
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 12:19 AM by Eye and Monkey
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:40 AM
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7. We don't know enough about this case
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 12:47 AM by LastDemocratInSC
It might be that the person should have exercised a little better judgment. Words spoken softly to colleagues mean more than buttons worn on lapels, and besides this, the reputation of a man means more than any slogans he might wear, especially in a politically charged climate.

Sometimes it makes more sense to play behind the scenes than steal the scenes.

I can't say much ... hey, I've worked in Southern political circles for a long time and have survived even though I'm usually viewed as an infidel.

I guess I'm just careful ... or lucky.
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 06:00 AM
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8. damkira
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 06:00 AM by jukes
ANY blurring of the separation of church & state is an opening for cynical opportunists to exploit.

if a plastic knife or a paleolithic artifact tripwires a "zero-tolerance" expulsion in our schools, then a superstitious symbol can not be tolerated in our courts or governments.

i personally have no doubt that this was a political, not religious statement; but in either case, it's just wrong. they can keep their damn iconography private, & not force it into my view, or insinuate it into our government.

the only stupidity is failing to recognize that this country has NO state supported mythologies, by constitutional amendment, and a violation of this mandate; even in the pretense of innocuity, is an unpatriotic affront & an attempt to insinuate a particular superstition into our government & pick the lock on the bill of rights.

i apologize if this seems like a personal attack: but please don't delude yourself into thinking that any act by these people is innocent; they're avowed intent is to force their religious wars on the world, & coerce us into accepting their defense mechanism against their childish & neurotic fear of reality.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 10:46 AM
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14. they've politicized the 10 Commandments
the guy should have been fired--it was the same as wearing a campaign button
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 07:56 AM
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11. The media consitently leaves out of that story
this detail: the Chamber employee was not fired for simply wearing the pin. There was more to it than that. He was discussing the pin, and Moore, and the political issues surrounding the Ten Commandments (which are HUGE right now in Alabama) while at work, with people the Chamber was doing business with. He was asked not to do this, because the Chamber of Commerce is officially neutral on political issues unless they specifically affect business in Hoover.

The statement that "These have been high profile political issues," is a gigantic understatement. Roy Moore has inserted himself into three races for Supreme Court and one for Congress, taking out television ads in favor of his chosen candidates. It's all over talk radio, and you can't turn on the television for ten seconds without seeing his face, and hearing about how the Godless liberals stripped the TC, and God, out of public life.

This pin has a very definite political meaning, and if that wasn't enough, the employee spelled it out for anyone who asked. He was engaging in partisan politics at work, and the Chamber took a dim view of that.

After the story got to be big news, the employee and all the Moore crowd started saying the pin meant nothing but an expression of the employee's religious beliefs, and started the cry that the man was being persecuted for his Christianity. They have also started a drive to pressure "Christian" businesspeople in Hoover to withdraw in protest from membership in the Chamber of Commerce.

Makes me wonder, if this is just an issue of religion, why the Attorney General is suddenly involved?
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:39 PM
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2. Run Roy Run
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:51 PM
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4. ROY SHOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT
There are lots of Rolling Thunder Bikers who would vote for his sorry ass.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:18 AM
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6. Sort of a right-wing Nader?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 06:55 AM
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9. That's the ticket!!!
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 07:45 AM
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10. I can't count the number of calls I've received..
(pre-recorded, of course) from candidates who invoke the name of Roy Moore. These are all Republicans, but they speak Roy's name as if he was a god. Many of these candidates are seeking a judicial office.

My State just gets worse and worse every day. It is such a beautiful State, too...such a shame.

Ignorance is everywhere.

I'm off to cast my pointless presidential candidate vote in the Democratic Primary, and my votes for the handful of Democratic candidates running for various State offices.

Welcome to the Heart of Dixie.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:05 AM
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12. I feel your pain, Stuckinthebush
I thought I'd be happy to finally get to cast my symbolic primary vote, but it's just depressing.

My mom called, as she always does, to get my input on who is best qualified for the judicial races. I almost told her it didn't matter, just mark any name, cause the Ten Commandments people are going to win, anyway.

I love the state of my birth, sometimes I just want to cry. :cry:
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:06 AM
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13. See you in the short line!
We'll cry together....
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