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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:20 AM
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Twelve Hours of Terror at Oasis Compound
ALKHOBAR, 31 May 2004 — “They opened the door and came inside our house and asked my seven-year-old son, ‘Are you a Muslim?’ When he told them ‘Yes,’ they left. Forty-five minutes later I came downstairs and saw blood on the floor. It was only then that I began to be worried that something terrible was happening at our compound.”

Twelve Hours of Terror at Oasis Compound....

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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:36 AM
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1. The Saudi Police Are Infiltrated
I've long held this belief and the comments by the mother at the end of this piece confirms my suspicion.

"We asked Hashim why he didn’t tell us about the terrorists when they came to the house and questioned him,” his mother said. “He told us that they were familiar to him so he wasn’t afraid. Every day on the way to school he sees too many police officers with guns. They don’t frighten him anymore. All we can hope is that because he was not scared then, that he will not be afraid now.”

He wasn't seeing strange men with guns he was seeing the police officers he saw every day. I don't think this woman knows exactly what she just revealed but this is very INTERESTING. This child wasn't frightened because he is used to seeing men with guns..he was used to seeing those SPECIFIC men with guns.

Saudi Arabia is about to explode. I am quite relived to be out of the Middle East. Shit now I'm in Italy and the fucker Bush is coming.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:46 AM
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2. I almost snipped that paragraph too
I'd considered the view you express, that the Saudi police are hopelessly infiltrated, but hadn't given it much weight. But that statement really jumps out.

If they fall now, they will fall to extremely violent, radically anti-Western forces. Not good at all.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:54 AM
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3. Surprised!
I am surprised that the terrorist gave up.

Punishments in Saudi Arabia include death by beheading, amputation and
flogging, and AI says these can be handed down "after trials that make a mockery of justice".

Saudi Arabia is said to have one of the highest rates of execution in
the world, averaging two a week, but AI says it provides no information on how victims had been tried.

According to reports the group has compiled over the last two decades,
some defendants were tortured into signing a confession, then beheaded.

"Incommunicado detention, a criminal justice system which from the
outset treats suspects as guilty, and the lack of independent mechanisms
for reporting torture and investigations into allegations, all foster a climate of impunity," it says.

http://www.domini.org/openbook/sau20000328.htm

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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:38 AM
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4. They were dressed as Saudi National Guard.
They wore uniforms of the Saudi National Guard, which is responsible for security at residential compounds of foreign workers, and they drove vehicles with military markings.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=592274

Sounds like it would be easiest to pull this off if at least one of them was fairly high up in the Guard, and enough were plants to drive off with uniforms and vehicles without being reported.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:53 AM
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6. I really think this whole story is being hyped and played for the drama
The terra war needs proped up to help in the ailments of *'s low poll numbers. I have found a lot fishy in this whole thing. The wrinkle in on so many of the nationals in on it should of been no suprise, but real news is so hard to fetch out of the place.

I posted this in another thread your story here helps to make sense of it

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1-1129544,,00.html

Saudi security forces 'allowed kidnappers to flee'
BY AGENCIES IN AL-KHOBAR, SAUDI ARABIA

Saudi security forces allowed some kidnappers in the bloody weekend attack on a residential compound to flee because they threatened to blow up the building, according to reports.

At least 22 people died in the attack, including a Briton whose body was dragged through the streets of the port city of al-Khobar.

One employee of the Oasis compound said today that a hostage heard the gunmen shouting that they would release their captives if the security forces let them go.

"The security forces refused at the beginning but then apparently relented," he said.

"There was a kind of a deal reached to let the hostages go free, though some hostages had already been killed." Nine hostages died after their throats were cut.
(snip)

On edit:In another one that seems to be getting quashed


British oil executive among dead
Press Association
Sunday May 30, 2004 12:13 PM

A British oil executive was one of 16 people killed in the Saudi Arabian terror attack which ended when security forces stormed the building where the gunmen were holding 50 people hostage.

Michael Hamilton died in the al Qaida-linked atrocity in the oil rich eastern city of Al Khobar.

The terrorists initially fired upon the offices of two oil companies before seeking refuge in a residential compound and taking hostages. Nine Saudis and seven foreigners died in the attacks, according to reports.
(snip)
There followed a shoot-out between Islamic militants and the Saudi authorities which led to several of the gunmen being arrested.
(snip)
I can only post 4 paragraphs so check here for other tidbits
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:Wifz66eBKrkJ:www.guardian.co.uk/u...

And why maybe this matters some
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/31/1085855500353.html
Iron fist a bit soft in the head
Analysis by Brian Whitaker
June 1, 2004
(snip)
When asked how many arrests there had been, he gave three different answers and had to be prompted by an official before he could get it right.
(snip)
They are difficult to detect because they tend to work in small, unconnected cells, and they prefer death to arrest - ideally causing as many casualties as possible before they die.
(snip)
Since the Saudi economy relies heavily on foreign workers, attacking them, regardless of their religion, meshes neatly with the militants' strategic objectives.

The weekend attacks will reverberate far beyond Saudi Arabia's borders - particularly in Washington, where rising oil prices could become a factor in the presidential election.
(snip)
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:13 PM
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10. Excuse the post above MaryT, what I was meaning by hype was.........
it is being hyped for * to make it look like this EFFING great protector of freedom (their empire)is on the job at hand, stomping out the Terra all along. (they will spin it that way you know). Being Elected (for the first time) is more important than anything else for the cabal. Have no surprise they will stoop to the lowest levels, I have no doubt
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:13 AM
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5. Mary T, I thought you were in Alaska
How did you get to Italy? We have been worried about you and hope you are doing well without the creep. How's the baby?
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:37 PM
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7. Baby and I fine in Italy
Alaska was a nightmare. Sister drunker than a skunk it was a really ugly and hard nightmare. My "family" doesn't get what a trial we endured. They can't admit what I did not know, that my sister is a total and complete drunken fuckwittage and had NO business inviting us there. We are out of there and with a friend in Sicily. It is a cosmic culture shock and we are weary beyond belief but we are away from the drunken Alaskan and with a true friend.

I am exhausted and depressed. I really hate my family. They have NO idea what Peyton and I have been through. They are all about appearance and Pey and I are a bit ragged these days. Fuck them.

I'm hanging in holding on with both hands.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:40 PM
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8. yikes! sounds like horror.
was wondering where your 2-4am EST posts snarling at the Bushites went...
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:02 PM
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9. Big you have NO idea how fucking bad it was
And to realize that your family is just so complicit and clue-less. Really devastating. Good book I assure coming from this. I am so fucking tired. Did I mention that I hate my family. These people are insane and I am not using a hyperbole.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 04:36 PM
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12. I can only say, "I identify".
I can only hope that,...you are getting rest and being in every moment of your child. I have one son and,...when my family gets weird,...I just,...look at him. Even at 14, in his years of "identity-creation",...I can still just look at him and somehow grasp an anchor that centers me.

I spent some time with my rather obscure family the last several days. Being the oldest, I got to spend alot of time with my younger siblings' children who are 10 years old and under. They all kept me centered and happy.

I tried hating my family. It didn't work for me. To the contrary, it somehow drew me into their,...game or world or whatever,...and that just made me feel terrible. So, I let them go and,...AND I allowed myself to let go of them.

They are pages in another book. I can Love them as pages in a book that is different from my own. I can Love them even though I have read the book in which they are pages while they refuse to read my book. I simply accept that, we are not only not on the same page but books apart,...and it is silly for me to expect that they would buy my reality anymore than it would be for them to expect me to buy into their reality.

BAH!!! Beyond simple rules of conduct, what choice do we have other than,...compromise,...on all the other "stuff"? Unfortunately, even the simple principles of decency are being sacrificed,...and that is awful.

,...am ranting,....please forgive,....ugh,....
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:58 PM
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11. Following the 1996 terrorist attack on U. S. troops in Saudi Arabia...
...that left 19 dead, both the FBI and CIA suspected/concluded that the Saudi police had been compromised.
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