Democrats to 'verify' purge of voter rolls (Florida)

[Freddie Stubbs]

By Robert Perez | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted May 22, 2004

Florida has begun another purge of felons from its voter rolls, and state Democratic leaders want no glitches that could stop law-abiding citizens from voting.

So they're going to double-check the state's work.

The Florida Democratic Party on Friday asked for all public records relating to how the state Division of Elections developed its list of nearly 50,000 "potential felons," which was transmitted to the state's 67 election supervisors last week.

"We want to have public records available so we can verify the list," said Scott Maddox, Florida Democratic Party chairman. "It's the old 'trust but verify.' After 2000, there's not much trust, so all that's left is to verify."

more: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/elections/orl-locfelon22052204may22,1,6580191.story

[Beetwasher]

1. Well, Thankfully They're Capable of Learning

What happens when they find out that thousands of eligible voters have been purged? Can they get them back on the rolls in time?

[KuroKensaki]

2. I have no trust either..

Not even for the Democrats here. I live in Florida, and NOBODY made a big enough deal about the tens of thousands of purged voters. All we got was an NAACP lawsuit.

Tell you what--get Greg Palast to check over the list after the state Democrats have done it.

[Paradise]

4. and from what i had heard and read,

during the 2000 selection, florida's selection supervisor, theresa lepore, was a republican in democratic's clothing. :think:

[KuroKensaki]

7. That's bad?

Katherine Harris was simultaneously Florida's Secretary of State and the chairwoman of Bush*'s election campaign!!

And nobody saw a conflict of interest in this.

[Paradise]

19. yes, and 'hairass' was rewarded

with a position in the u.s. house of representatives. many of us saw a conflict of interest,
however the bushes are a powerful lot. it really :hurts: !

[Freddie Stubbs]

10. Theresa Lepore is the election supervisor for Palm Beach County

not for the entire state.

[Paradise]

20. yes, and she was the creator of

the infamous 'butterfly ballot' which, all by itself, could very easilly have cost gore the election.

[Freddie Stubbs]

21. I think that she was just stupid, not necessarily corrupt

Unfortunately the Republicans have a monopoly on neither.

[Paradise]

22. not to belabor the point,

but what i read about her was that she was republican, came from a republican family, and, for some reason, had to be a democrat to secure that particular position, so she switched.
she was either dumb or dumb-as-a-fox, and i could go either way, :) sooo i'll go your way :hi:!

[PATRICK]

23. Corrupt and deliberately dumb

She also took home voting machine cards for the new machines back when it was not a story that such cards could be easily copied and altered.

Just because no one holds you to account does not mean that you are NOT a crook, but with a huge lineup of smoking guns as she has at the very least someone should investigate and suspend her as election commissioner. She seems to me exactly to a "t" the clone of Kathleen Harris when it comes to voting.

And as self destructive as a purge can get I am increasingly suspicious that she is not the only doubtful Democrat bungling away the store to the GOP and hamstringing the party in Florida(or elsewhere).

Such people should never at the very least be entrusted with high responsibilities and leadership due to their shadowy action and inaction in their duties. Or plain stupidity, does it matter?

Of course what is frustrating is the spectrum of the "doofus-I- wanna-be-like-the-GOP-surrender-monkeys" to the Zell Miller sellouts and paid trolls. A deep purge would eliminate a chunk of the top leadership of the DLC just as a matter of course. THEY seem to understand this instinctively and their response?

Threaten the party like Bayh did. Another reaction typical of people caught with their pants down. This is a radical swing to the left, to fight for the integrity of our elections?

[Freddie Stubbs]

18. The Supervisor of Elections is elected as a nonpartisan position

[Paradise]

24. ;) sooo, we have nothing to worry about! ;)

snip
"Theresa LePore, the person responsible for the infamous "butterfly ballot" as Palm Beach Supervisor of elections, switches party affiliation BACK to 'Independent.' Le Pore was never a real Democrat, and only switched to the Democratic Party affiliation to win the office. Republicans who said the butterfly ballot was made by a Democrat were wrong. This revives an old question: 'Was the ballot design intentional?'"
snip

http://www.legitgov.org/linksPbuddies.html (halfway down)

snip
"The folks at Democrats.com had their "Don't let the door hit you on the way out" response at the ready. 'Back in November, we all wondered how the butterfly ballot, which just seemed intentionally fixed to throw the race to the GOP, could have been designed by a Democrat! We were confused a bit suspicious. Now the other shoe has dropped! Ballot designer Theresa LePore has come out of the closet and officially declared herself a Republican! She belonged to the party in the 70s, then switched to Independent, then to Dem in 1996 just when the GOP really started playing dirty. She says she switched back to the GOP because the Dems were mean to her. Well, Theresa, maybe it's because nobody likes a double agent!'"
snip

http://dir.salon.com/politics/red/2001/05/09/blue/index.html (1/4 down)

:hi:

[Snoggera]

3. list of nearly 50,000 "potential felons,"

Isn't everyone a "potential felon?"

The use of the language these days is fascinating.

[goclark]

9. Bushco should not cast one vote

In my mind they are felons!

These Repthugs are getting "two for one" because they know the huge majority of "felons" are democrats/African American!

This makes me so mad when a kid is labeled without fair representation and Ken Lay is walking around free as a bird. He should be a JAIL BIRD!

And.... Bushco can kill thousands and they can vote!!!

[Virginian]

13. Good grief, did every ex-con move to Florida.

That is a very large number of "potential felons."

[Just Me]

25. *LOL* I'll have to keep that observation in my "counter-point" list. n/t

[cally]

5. Does anyone know what the NAACP is doing about this?

I think they settled their lawsuit. The agreement was to clean up the voting rolls? This latest purge seems to violate the settlement. I'm basing this on my memory of the settlement.

Does anyone have any information?

[salin]

6. My understanding was that the final settlement involved correcting

the last purge - which was not corrected (I believe) by 2002. I have periodically looked to see if that was done - and haven't found anything one way or the other.

Perhaps they reinstated everyone (to correct the problems?) and are starting over? I, too, would be very interested in the Fla. NAACP's take on a) the compliance to the settlement; and b) how this current action does or does not fit with it.

[Nicholas_J]

11. There is still a case running

To overturn Florida's laws that prevent felons who have finished their probation or parole requirememts from voting. Republicans are trying to stall it, as well as prevent it from reaching the U.S. Supreme Court level, as if the Supremes deem it to be unconstitutional (as several state courts have) Then every state still left with such laws on the book will have to repeal such laws.

Repules are stalling it in FLorida, keeping it from getting to the Florida Supreme Court, because the Florida Court will almost immediately boot it to the Supreme Court. They are trying to get it dealt with at the state level, so that at this point, it will effect no other state, but they are trying to stall it, so that nothing happens during this electoral cycle. TheACLU is trying to push it so that it is overturned just before the election, and in enough time for those effected by it to be able to register in time for the November vote.

[Freddie Stubbs]

27. Nothing new on the NAACP's website

yet.

[bullimiami]

8. You are correct sir

And Jebco has dragged and dragged it out through the 2002 election and intends to drag it out past the 2004 election.
He is in contept as far as I can see and someone should drag him back into court and slap an injuction against him and threaten him with jail time.

[AndyTiedye]

16. They Say it will be 2006 Before All Wrongfully-Purged Are Back

[cally]

17. A little more info

My local NPR station had a report on this new purge. A couple county election supervisors indicated they had found significant problems already. One said they won't be hurried this time but others indicated there won't be time to check all the names before November.

I don't have a link because I have no idea which show this was on. I wasn't paying much attention until I realized what they were discussing. :-(

Thanks all for more info on the NAACP lawsuit.

[DrBB]

12. Okay, but has the 2000 purge been corrected yet???

Last I heard--couple of months ago--they still hadn't reinstated the people mistakenly purged from the last go-round. Be kinda nice if they fixed that, too, huh?

[MasonJar]

14. Of what value is the suit if the NAACP doesn't follow through and get the

innocent registered?

[AspenRose]

15. Gee, I feel so much better now.

Making a list and checking it twice....gonna find out who's naughty or nice....


Paging Tavis Smiley! Paging Tavis Smiley! Disenfranchisement in progress!

Time to organize!

[ElementaryPenguin]

26. There's gonna be a fight over this! BushCo is banking on this!

Tom Delay brownshirts are no doubt being called into readying positions! Get ready to rumble, folks!