McCain says entire Taguba report not sent to congress...

[Cooley Hurd]

...by the DoD. He just said that the DoD sent a redacted version of the report to the hill, and this was found out only today. BTW, McCain's pissed!

On Larry King Live, hoping a link pops up...

[maddezmom]

1. just added this to another link

He knows a cover up is in progress... and he's making it known.

[Cooley Hurd]

4. I'd love to hear Lindsey Graham's feeling about this...

I hope this tips the scales in favor of jettisoning Rummy!

[King_Crimson]

21. It SHOULD jettison the whole band...

of murderous thugs! But alas...fat chance of that!

[oldhat]

2. Ruh roh.

[whistle]

3. No wonder Speaker HasTURD has been dissing McCain....

...that filthy tub of guts Hastert! And the whole repukes party:mad: :grr:

[aquart]

5. Holy undetermined brown substance!

[Minstrel Boy]

11. Thanks, that's

the bitterest laugh I've had today. And I've had a few.

[Barrett808]

6. Is the leaked report that's posted at various sites the redacted report?

Or is there as yet unreleased content?

[Cooley Hurd]

7. I'd assume so...

...since the senators would have access to them, as well. This sounds like Congress is pissed about being snowed by the DoD for the last time!

[maddezmom]

9. I agree, Congresswoman Harmen just thanked the The New Yorker and

Washington Post for keeping them updated on the events at Abu Ghraib and more.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

8. Taguba himself seemed kind of "redacted" in his testimony, compared

to the tone of what's in his report. A "Frankie Pentangeli moment".

[scarletlib]

34. That's because the Pentagon sent along 'minders'

to sit on either side of him while he testified. I'm sure that is why he was so restrained.

[killbotfactory]

10. Rumsfeld: War Criminal and freind of Iranian Spies

We owe him a debt of gratitude.

[Cooley Hurd]

13. Don't forget that same Iranian spy was Laura's date, too...

From CBS News:

<snip>
Senior U.S. officials told 60 Minutes Correspondent Lesley Stahl that they have evidence Chalabi has been passing highly-classified U.S. intelligence to Iran.

The evidence shows that Chalabi personally gave Iranian intelligence officers information so sensitive that if revealed it could, quote, "get Americans killed." The evidence is said to be "rock solid."

Sources have told Stahl a high-level investigation is underway into who in the U.S. government gave Chalabi such sensitive information in the first place.

In addition, sources told Stahl that one of Chalabi's closest confidantes — a senior member of his organization, the Iraqi national congress — is believed to have been recruited by Iran's intelligence agency, the Ministry of Information and Security (MOIS) — and is on their payroll.
</snip>

Yep, Laura's date. Probably even slept in the Lincoln Bedroom... :grr:

[mom cat]

15. What is the reference to "Laura's date" ? I missed that one.

[Cooley Hurd]

16. Chalabi's the dude right behind Laura in the picture...

...at the 2004 State of the Union address.

(text of picture) First Lady Laura Bush waves while standing with some of her guests which included members of the Iraqi Governing Council during President Bush's State of the Union address Jan. 20, 2004. Clockwise from top, Ahmad Chalabi, Hoshyar Zebari and Adnan Pachachi.

[PaDUer]

18. Ya, with her too! Yuck! n/t

[Atman]

20. That pic would go nicely with my Rummy/Saddam pic!

Maybe we need to start a deck of cards of the Bush's with famous war criminals in history. Prescott could be the Ace of Spades. Poppy the King.

[koopie57]

30. and another deck

of those who have been suicided .. well, two decks I guess.

[TacticalPeek]

12. I may have missed McCain saying 'redacted', as in blacked out lines.

I assumed it meant pieces missing, like additional "untidiness" they'd rather not discuss just now.

But I wonder if what's missing relates to resolving the clash between the denials and claims in the sworn testimony of generals and Pentagon suits, and the Taguba Report.

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OT - Inside Washington is on now in some PBS markets now. Worth a look for the marvelous slicing Charles Krauthammer suffers from Clarence King et al.

[Cooley Hurd]

14. He didn't say "redacted..."

He said that parts of the report were missing. He didn't go into detail, unfortunately...

[havocmom]

22. Possibly he got an unedited copy from the source?

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Trajan]

23. Omission equals deletion ....

Deletion equals redaction ....

When you CUT parts of a document out: you have REDACTED it ...

When you add new material to a document: you have REDACTED it ...

IF they had intentionally omitted certains parts of the WHOLE document as originally written ... then they have REDACTED that document ...

You were using the term correctly ....

[kentuck]

17. That's really stupid....

Why would they do that?

[pinto]

19. it's worked before....

[Disturbed]

24. Taguba Report

This report was an attempt to keep the story from widening and
showing that the torture was system wide.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. What? The DoD (Rummy) was hiding information?? Shocking!!!

[Just Me]

37. Since, "cover up" IS this administration's MO, I am having trouble

comprehending where the hell congresspeople's heads have been, for crying out loud.

There should be no surprise, whatsoever. This is the pattern of behavior this administration has shown from day one. They hide everything!!!

It sort of pisses me off that suddenly there is a "show" of outrage when the administration has hidden its policy agenda, hidden its actual motivations underlying Iraq, hidden the actual cost of its Medicrunch policy, hidden the air quality reading after 9/11, hidden its intention NOT to adequately fund "Every Child Left Behind", hidden scientific evidence of global warming, hidden at least a couple of billion dollars the Pentagon supposedly LOST, etc. etc. etc.

GRRRRR!!!! :grr:

[NMDemDist2]

26. here's the link

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0405/21/lkl.01.html

[Cooley Hurd]

27. Thanks, AZ!

:hi:

(from the transcript)
MCCAIN: No, and I found out today that the Taguba report may not have been completely sent over to us. If that's the case, I'm disappointed in that. There's...

KING: What do you mean?

MCCAIN: It's our assessment that the entire report by General Taguba was not sent over to the Senate Armed Services Committee. And we need that complete document, and I'm disappointed if we haven't gotten it, and I hope we get it soon.

[TacticalPeek]

28. "BTW, McCain's pissed!" - I think I found part of what was missing:

snip

He said that he asked Graner, a Pennsylvania prison guard in civilian life, about the photographs. Graner replied: "The Christian in me says it's wrong, but the corrections officer in me says, 'I love to make a grown man piss himself.' "

snip

Harman also hinted that military intelligence officers were orchestrating events in Tier 1A. She described a number of abuses, including soldiers letting a dog bite a detainee on both legs. She also said that an interpreter practiced karate kicks to the head of another detainee nicknamed the "Taxicab Driver." She said he was hit so hard he required stitches.

"MI, CID, OGA, etc., have all been involved," she told investigators.

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Pain and Amusement

[koopie57]

31. wow

my son is a second degree black belt (15 years old) and I have spent the last five years minding my own business and him coming up and kicking at my head. They are trained to get close enough to move the hair, but not harm you. And they are trained to use "might for right". This makes me cry cuz it goes against everything that martial arts stands for. And another reason this guy is a disgrace is cuz to kick full at someone's head would break his neck if he had power and abilities. He is not only a lousy person, but a piss poor martial artist. I would like to take his belt and ..... well.....I'll keep that to myself.

I think that these people have left nothing sacred. They seemed to have infiltrated every aspect of our lives and shamed it, disgraced it. And for what? To please the ignorant george bush? Just think if all this energy and money and time had been turned to something positive. Evil fu**in' bast**r**.

[ConcernedCanuk]

29. Hmmm - this leads me to believe what I have suspected for some time

.
.
.

The United States so-called civilian controlled military

is controlled by the military.

So, by extension, foreign policy (the government) is controlled by the Military.

A large Military force needs war to justify itself, and it's increasing budgets to fund such wars.

This would explain why the US has forces in 130 countries.

World peace is NOT on the US agenda.

World peace would justify a reduction in the US Military(and its budget).

And the military leaders don't want that.

Expect wars by the US to continue for some time . . .

(sigh)

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

32. I wish him luck cleaning up his party--gonna need some knee-high boots

He ought to consider starting one of his own. The GOP must be unrecognizable to him at this point.

[Skip Intro]

33. man, its like a steady stream of bombshells

I cannot believe how much info has begun to flow, at the moment, on a seeming non-stop rhythm.

I don't know what is really going on, right now. I feel good about Kerry more and more, and I believe some very wise and patriotic decisions are being made, not all of them on the Democratic side.

I have a sense we may be seeing in progress something much larger than it appears. Overwhelming, I hope.

[NNN0LHI]

35. Bet they didn't see the "real" photos in possession of the DoD either n/t

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

36. No matter what, the Repub instinct is to cover up, lie, obfuscate. They

could REALLY investigate, release all the pics/vids at once, etc. and hope that they have enough months for the thing to cool off by election time. But, like the scorpion and the turtle, "it's their nature" to act like this. I hope that they drown in a sea of gradually released photos and scandal.

They probably feel they can't really risk real disclosure and investigation because it'd bring the torch wielding mob too close to their door, hence the standard stonewall strategy.

Bush Transition Team