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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:01 PM
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Report: Rumsfeld Authorized Secret Program
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:05 PM
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1. Can we all say????
The Hague?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 03:04 PM
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8. Yup. All together now: the HAGUE! the HAGUE! the HAGUE! *eom*
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:08 PM
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2. Hmmm, could it be coincidence that
the Sarin gas report and this report come out at the same time?? Nawwwwwwwww, COULDN'T BE!!! </sarcasm>
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:15 PM
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3. At the very least he should be personally billed for his BS trip
to Iraq. Lies, its all fucking lies.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:22 PM
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5. Yep - every bit a Political Campaign Stop ...
Edited on Mon May-17-04 02:22 PM by Drifter
as the ones AWOL takes everyday.

Cheers
Drifter
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:22 PM
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4. Just LOOK at the lies and obfuscations!!
"Critics say the interrogation rules, first laid out in September after a visit to Iraq by the then-commander of the prison for terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, amounted to a green light for abuse. "

----Gee, NO NAME for this guy? How did THAT get left out of this.. manipulation by the media right here..


"Defense Department officials deny that, saying prisoners always are treated under guidelines of the Geneva Conventions."

---BIG FAT LIE.. even Rumsfeld admitted they had violated the Geneva Convention!!

this more media coverup and spin, and PEOPLE are beginning to realize it..

too freaking blatant at this point..

gotta LOVE that headline tho, eh? :)
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phatkatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:45 PM
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6. This was the headline in Sunday's paper here in Huntsville, AL
Military Huntsville, red Alabama, where the candidates don't even bother campaigning, top of the page, even above reports of college football recruits making their grades to play this fall.

HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE UTTERLY SANE!?!?!?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:23 PM
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9. YES eom
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:56 PM
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7. So does it fit or are setting up something else?
an excerpt
(snip)
Last year, Rumsfeld and Stephen Cambone, his undersecretary for intelligence, expanded the scope of the Pentagon's program and brought its methods to Abu Ghraib, Hersh wrote.

Critics say the interrogation rules, first laid out in September after a visit to Iraq by the then-commander of the prison for terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, amounted to a green light for abuse.

Defense Department officials deny that, saying prisoners always are treated under guidelines of the Geneva Conventions.

"No responsible official of the Department of Defense (news - web sites) approved any program that could conceivably have been intended to result in such abuses as witnessed in the recent photos and videos," Di Rita said in his statement. "This story seems to reflect the fevered insights of those with little, if any, connection to the activities in the Department of Defense."

Di Rita also said Cambone has never had any responsibility for any detainee or interrogation programs.

The intelligence sources told the magazine photos of the sexual abuse were used to intimidate prisoners and detainees into providing information on the insurgency. It was thought that some prisoners would do anything — including spying on their associates — to avoid dissemination of the shameful photos to family and friends.

One intelligence official said the CIA ended its involvement with the program at Abu Ghraib prison by last fall.

"They said, 'No way. We signed up for the core program in Afghanistan — pre-approved for operations against the high-value terrorist targets — and now you want to use it for cabdrivers, brothers-in-law, and people pulled off the streets,'" the source said.
(snip)

I keep on thinking some the "information extraction mechanism" they used as discribed by JOE seems very ad-hoc and amurture
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