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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:49 AM
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Newsweek: The Roots of Torture
The Roots of Torture: The road to Abu Ghraib began after 9/11, when Washington wrote new rules to fight a new kind of war. A NEWSWEEK investigation

May 24 - It's not easy to get a member of Congress to stop talking. Much less a room full of them. But as a small group of legislators watched the images flash by in a small, darkened hearing room in the Rayburn Building last week, a sickened silence descended. There were 1,800 slides and several videos, and the show went on for three hours. The nightmarish images showed American soldiers at Abu Ghraib Prison forcing Iraqis to masturbate. American soldiers sexually assaulting Iraqis with chemical light sticks. American soldiers laughing over dead Iraqis whose bodies had been abused and mutilated. There was simply nothing to say. "It was a very subdued walk back to the House floor," said Rep. Jane Harman, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. "People were ashen."

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Indeed, the single most iconic image to come out of the abuse scandal—that of a hooded man standing naked on a box, arms outspread, with wires dangling from his fingers, toes and penis—may do a lot to undercut the administration's case that this was the work of a few criminal MPs. That's because the practice shown in that photo is an arcane torture method known only to veterans of the interrogation trade. "Was that something that dreamed up by herself? Think again," says Darius Rejali, an expert on the use of torture by democracies. "That's a standard torture. It's called 'the Vietnam.' But it's not common knowledge. Ordinary American soldiers did this, but someone taught them."

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Who might have taught them? Almost certainly it was their superiors up the line. Some of the images from Abu Ghraib, like those of naked prisoners terrified by attack dogs or humiliated before grinning female guards, actually portray "stress and duress" techniques officially approved at the highest levels of the government for use against terrorist suspects. It is unlikely that President George W. Bush or senior officials ever knew of these specific techniques, and late last —week Defense spokesman Larry DiRita said that "no responsible official of the Department of Defense approved any program that could conceivably have been intended to result in such abuses." But a NEWSWEEK investigation shows that, as a means of pre-empting a repeat of 9/11, Bush, along with Defense Secretary Rumsfeld and Attorney General John Ashcroft, signed off on a secret system of detention and interrogation that opened the door to such methods. It was an approach that they adopted to sidestep the historical safeguards of the Geneva Conventions, which protect the rights of detainees and prisoners of war. In doing so, they overrode the objections of Secretary of State Colin Powell and America's top military lawyers—and they left underlings to sweat the details of what actually happened to prisoners in these lawless places. While no one deliberately authorized outright torture, these techniques entailed a systematic softening up of prisoners through isolation, privations, insults, threats and humiliation—methods that the Red Cross concluded were "tantamount to torture."

The Bush administration created a bold legal framework to justify this system of interrogation, according to internal government memos obtained by NEWSWEEK. What started as a carefully thought-out, if aggressive, policy of interrogation in a covert war—designed mainly for use by a handful of CIA professionals—evolved into ever-more ungoverned tactics that ended up in the hands of untrained MPs in a big, hot war. Originally, Geneva Conventions protections were stripped only from Qaeda and Taliban prisoners. But later Rumsfeld himself, impressed by the success of techniques used against Qaeda suspects at Guantanamo Bay, seemingly set in motion a process that led to their use in Iraq, even though that war was supposed to have been governed by the Geneva Conventions. Ultimately, reservist MPs, like those at Abu Ghraib, were drawn into a system in which fear and humiliation were used to break prisoners' resistance to interrogation.

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http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4989481/
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:55 AM
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1. they wanted to sidestep geneva convention, yet never have such abuses?
what on earth do you think they were thinking of when they said they wanted to sidestep the geneva convention?

the only point in sidestepping the geneva convention is precisely to permit such abuses!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 05:07 AM
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2. Don't this put the USA into the WAR CRIMES category??
Sad to say, this is what it sure looks like.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 07:42 AM
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5. uh yeah
be sad
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 05:39 AM
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3. Sorry about that Supreme Court position, Alberto
This should kill any notion of Alberto Gonzales being named to the Supreme Court, as the Bush Administration apparently wanted to do.

Pack your stuff, Gonzales. Put it next to Rumsfeld's, Cambone's, Cheney's, and Bush's stuff there in the foyer. We'll forward it to you in Texas.
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Shoq Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 07:13 AM
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4. Um... where's the "outrage?"
What is going on? I went to bed assuming the Newsweek/Gonzales story would detonate like a warhead in the morning papers?

What am I missing? Newsweek claims to have internal memos confirming much of this plan, which would seem to neatly confirm Sy Hersh's main thrusts on Friday, yet the media and the blogsphere is mostly dead-silent. Even Newsweek's parent,the Washington Post makes no mention this morning.

I've heard MSGOP make precisely one reference to it, just now. That's it. CNN has yet to mention it.

Since when does EVIDENCE confirming that our government deliberately set out to end-run the Geneva convention get met by total silence.

I am completely amazed. If this story can't blow the lid off this scandal (and obvious cover up), I don't know what can.

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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 08:22 AM
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6. Please discuss here, thanks.
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