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Blecht (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 02:50 PM Original message |
The Gray Zone (Hersh exposes Rumsfeld) |
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LittleApple81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. I worry about Hersh's life and security. He is too honest for this band |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Hersh is a made man |
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LittleApple81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Why do you say that? Is he going to be protected by people he knows? |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 03:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Not really sure |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 08:31 AM Response to Reply #5 |
86. Really you don't have to use your imagination too much |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
92. Maybe he's just always one step ahead of them |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Actually, I think he did a favor for the CIA once during the Ford admin |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. WTF? |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. Great article |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Yes, it is!!! After a careful read, I am spitting fire, again!!! |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. And I can't help but look at the genuine diligent care |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. So, TRUE!!! I am in awe of the courage of those who are "skillfully" |
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CheshireCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. JAG and Lindsey Graham |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
75. ....and after Linsey Graham came on strong during that first |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
65. Slight correction, Just Me. |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 07:10 AM Response to Reply #65 |
80. Thank you for that clarification. |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Sy Hersh is going to blow holes in every lie |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. CIA is getting even with a vengeance. |
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symbolman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. This looks |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. Can A DU'er Wiser Than Me Explain The Significance/Implications Of |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I'm not an expert by any means, but my understanding |
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Vitruvius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 06:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. And such an integrated force is made to order for a COUP -- |
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crossroads (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
57. So this group decided... the end justified the means! |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. An interesting thing about Cambone... |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Recent news article |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:10 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Al Franken actually called Cambone's office |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 07:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
82. Rummy wistful of blitzkrieg - he went on lehrer news and spoke of |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
42. Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et al ..... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. And, mind you, none of those "careerists" had a left wing bone |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. Randi Rhodes Had A Caller On Thurday Who Mentioned Operations Like This: |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Yup. I picked up on the "no traceability or budget",... |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. That's called... |
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Blecht (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. That was fast - Reuters picked up the story |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. What Rummy wants? He wants to make life a Tom Clancy novel. |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. No... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
13. Rummy should get the boot. eom |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 08:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
84. He will this week! |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #84 |
94. Oooh! I hope so! But what makes you so sure? eom |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. In desperation junior will have to do something to stop the bleeding |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 06:13 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Then we should hope Rummy hangs on for dear life ... |
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MSgt213 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. What if there were secrets passed from one President to another that were |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
48. Kill themselves? Not bloody likely. |
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dArKeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. What kind of idiot wears his helmet in a press conference? Immoral |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. that MG Miller sure is one bad ass dude |
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5thGenDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. MG Miller |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #15 |
64. Since the Doonesbury character (B.D.) took his off in Iraq |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
69. You never see him arrive. You never see him leave. He is the wind. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 07:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
83. What a dork.... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
19. Denials from Pentagon (This looks like the smoking gun) |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Not just Cambone & Rumsfeld,...Bush & Rice are part of the package. n/t |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. Powell and (especially) Cheney, too. |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
20. Sy Hersh to be on CBS Face the Nation tomorrow. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 06:51 AM Response to Reply #20 |
79. ^^^^^KICK^^^^^^^ |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 09:15 AM Response to Reply #79 |
89. ^^^^^KICK 10:30 AM CBS^^^^^^^ |
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happynewyear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. if this doesn't finish this pack of thugs off, nothing will |
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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. It was predictable that the Bush regime would use rape and sex as weapons. |
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happynewyear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
76. its the only weapon they have that they know how to use |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
23. The only thing that will bring down these scumbags is Physical ARREST! |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. This is an OUT RAGE …. WRITE YOUR LAWMAKERS NOW |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
27. The Bad, The Ugly, and the Abominable... |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. The bottom line. |
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maryallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Excellent analysis, Tellurian. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. welcome, maryallen- |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 07:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
81. "Shitload of filling" = neocons' justifications/rationalizations,... |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 09:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. Who? Newt, the Abomination for one, lurking around the Pentagon and CIA.. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Where does Cheney fit into all this deception? What is his role? |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. Exc.! Now, Tellurian, do you see significance in Ahnuld attacking 16 women |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. J O'N... |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
68. You Nailed It RIGHT! |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:23 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. I have sympathy for Maria. I've known women dealing with pigs. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:35 AM Response to Reply #27 |
70. Cambone comes up repeatedly as one deeply involved in this project |
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Sophree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
100. I think the "white world" |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
28. what these people have done is unconscionable . . . |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. Your statement may be the best way to sell this argument. n/t |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
30. "President Bush was informed of the existence of the program." |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 10:23 AM Response to Reply #30 |
90. and his trusted "unsticker" condi approved the plan |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
35. kick nt |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:54 PM Original message |
the bottom line is: We have a sick government that should be removed ! |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
37. ## Support Democratic Underground! ## |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 07:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Ah, grovelbot...my donation has wings and should appear on your |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 08:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I mailed my check on Tuesday. DU IS THEE BEST!!!! n/t |
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demlandslide2004 (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
41. I want Rum and Bush and Rice and Bush impeached NOW! |
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MallRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
50. This is what we call "THE OTHER SHOE." |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. We're not done yet... theres the matter of Cheney... |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. This is why the neocons opted out of the Int. criminal court |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:05 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. If we keep following the invisible bread crumbs... |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
59. Blecht - thank you for the post. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:08 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. It's not enough, way not enough.. |
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Kool Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
62. Well, my goodness. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:24 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Ahem.. |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
67. Special-AcceSS Program |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
72. This thread seems bulletproof |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
77. This is the end of the Bush Administration and I should be happy |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 04:08 AM Response to Original message |
78. I bet Hersh's main source (former intel officer) is Kenneth deGraffenreid! |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
85. Copper Green is (tortured) people! |
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Sophree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
101. I know I shouldn't have laughed at that. |
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dArKeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
87. Did Rumsfeld OK Prisoner Policy? - CBS |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
88. Everybody is picking up this story today... |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Sip! |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #91 |
96. And can you believe the response from Sen. Inhofe???? |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. From Oklahoma what do you expect? |
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ze_dscherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. It was the top news in German television at prime time |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
93. Where are the other Sy Hershes? What's with journalism these days? |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Does it not seem funny that stories like this seem to come out......... |
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