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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:12 AM
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Al Jazeera - Arabs react to Berg decapitation
Arabs react to Berg decapitation


Wednesday 12 May 2004, 20:15 Makka Time, 17:15 GMT


Nic Berg's death has sparked mixed reaction in the region

Arab public opinion over the decapitation of an American hostage in Iraq has varied, with many calling it barbaric while others see it as a natural response to US violence....cont'd >

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/3897D0E4-B263-46FA-B96D-A89AA3C4F4C8.htm
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Coujeaux Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:33 AM
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1. Muntada al-Ansar? Where?
I have just one question about all of this. Where is this Muntada al-ansar web site everyone is saying the video came from?

I've seen the entire video and seriously question the authenticity of it. It is gruesome and when my stomach is ready for it again I'll watch it more closely.

Oh, hello from the newbie.
Jason
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:52 AM
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2. welcome!
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:53 AM
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3. Welcome to DU

:hi:

In non-answer to your question, I have no clue.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:59 AM
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4. Good question
I've been trying to find out the answer to that one too.

Here is what I found the other day when this whole thing broke:


This is the original link posted on DU, but the video has been removed.

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/iraq2vediom.wmv


The site belongs to "Northeast Intelligence Network" and is run by Douglas Hagmann. Doug is one of those self-made al Qaeda, terrorist 'experts' that Tom Ridge likes to use as one of his private intel sources. Odd that this fellow who is such a tool for HS, should be the first one to put this video out there?

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/faq.asp


This site also had a copy of the video, but now it's gone:

http://www.soulsurvivors.net/Public/iraq2vediom.wmv


Now a downloadable version is here:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~jvdkuyp/iraq2vedio2.rm.ram



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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 06:07 AM
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6. Don't think any of your links work.........all gone.
..
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 06:02 AM
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5. Actually, yes I do know....
It just came across my news scroll bar.

Apparently, the site has been shut down.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x551750
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 06:14 AM
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8. Off the net
Edited on Thu May-13-04 06:21 AM by ze_dscherman
BBC claims the website, hosted in Malaysia, has been taken down.


"The video was stored on a computer server belonging to a Malaysian web hosting company, Acme Commerce Sendirian Berhad.

The server had been leased to the creators of the site, Al-ansar.biz. They first put the film on the net, and are thought to have links to al-Qaeda.

Acme Commerce's business manager told the BBC that the volume of traffic to that one address was so great that it jammed connections to hundreds of other servers operated by the company.

Though the decision to close the website was a technical one, he said the company would have acted earlier on moral grounds if it had known the site's contents. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3710709.stm

However, other sites still show the video.

On edit: A thread on this just has been started in LBN:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x551750
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 06:22 AM
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9. It seems as if the website's been shut down.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 07:01 AM
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11. They shut the website down.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 09:47 AM
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13. It is still available on many more site however
Edited on Thu May-13-04 09:47 AM by 0007
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 10:08 AM
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14. probably al-ansar.biz
the host shut it down because the traffic was far too heavy.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:39 PM
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15. Hi Coujeaux!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 06:08 AM
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7. I viewed the video and highly question the authenticity
of the film. The video appeared to be fast forwarded and extremely blurry.



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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 06:29 AM
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10. it was purposely blurry
to conceil the ID of those committing the murder...
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 07:02 AM
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12. but you could see....
their white hands and military "at ease" postures..
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