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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:21 PM
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Former human rights minister told Bremer about Iraq detainee abuse
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/iraq_us_politics_resignation

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Former Iraqi human rights minister Abdel Basset Turki said US overseer Paul Bremer knew in November that Iraqi prisoners were being abused in US detention centres.

"In November I talked to Mr Bremer about human rights violations in general and in jails in particular. He listened but there was no answer. At the first meeting, I asked to be allowed to visit the security prisoners, but I failed," Turki told AFP on Monday.


"I told him the news. He didn't take care about the information I gave him." The coalition had no immediate comment about Turki's meeting with Bremer.


The minister, whose resignation was formally accepted by the coalition on Sunday, said he told Bremer about his meetings with former detainees.


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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:25 PM
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1. Oh, cool,...let's jail Bremer, too!!!
The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned!!!

:bounce:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:29 PM
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2. More evidence that this behavior was known of and encouraged
Edited on Mon May-03-04 12:31 PM by daleo
This must have went at least as high as Rummy. Bush may have been kept somewhat ignorant of the details, but he probably had a notion too.

On edit - Perhaps Saddam will repeat these U.S. leaders' denials word for word during his trial, it they still have the gumption to go through with it. I am sure that French lawyer is taking notes.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:31 PM
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3. The CHIMPANZEE knows nothing.
If you confiuse him too much during the day---- he will forget its time for his daily Bowel Movement.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:33 PM
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4. rummy and wolfie toured the jail just a few months ago...
probably encouraging the torture... :grr:
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:17 PM
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12. From Bush's inane approach to life and war . .
. . and the incredible arrogance of this administration, I would think it very likely that Rummy/Bremer/Wolfowitz/Pearle/whoever would have mentioned it to him in a joking offhand way as a sort of hoo-ah for the "good guys". When God's on your side, what's wrong with a little heathen torture?

Of course, we'll never know.
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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:31 PM
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14. Yes, after all, Bush considers this a crusade...
Which means he can engage in all the heathen torture he wants to.

:eyes:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:33 PM
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5. Oh boy! He can have an adjoining cell with Saddam at The Hague n/t
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:58 PM
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8. They should share the same cell
with life TV broadcasting
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:43 PM
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6. "Take a number."
"And what about all the good news about the hospitals and schools, and power back on. Look at all the wonderful things we've done for you."


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The US-dominated CPA has cited human rights as a motivating factor in
the invasion last spring to oust the authoritarian regime of Saddam
Hussein (news - web sites).



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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:54 PM
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7. Maybe this will be further evidence that this war had nothing to do with
anything that flowed out of the administration. Maybe, people will figure out that this was a war of exploitation,...for greed and power.

A girl's gotta' dream!!!
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:58 PM
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9. I'm sure this will improve under Negroponte
No human rights activists will be allowed inside the prisons to report on the abuses then. :grr:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:14 PM
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10. Hopefully that monster will soon join the ranks of the unemployed!!!
Perhaps, he will even be charged by the ICC along with the rest of them!!!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:14 PM
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11. Bremer needs to resign. <sigh>
Nobody falls on a sword in this administration. It's a stone wall from top to bottom.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:30 PM
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13. THEY ALL KNEW
it's like the August 6th PDB.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:52 PM
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15. What do you expect
The monsters who could sit on their hand on 9-11, while they knew 1000's of Americans were being killed, could care less about brutalizing a few brown-skinned people.



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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:58 PM
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16. Report from Australia
Bremer 'knew of abuse in November'
From correspondents in Baghdad
04may04
FORMER Iraqi human rights minister Abdel Basset Turki said today US overseer Paul Bremer knew in November that Iraqi prisoners were being abused in US detention centres.

"In November I talked to Mr Bremer about human rights violations in general and in jails in particular. He listened but there was no answer. At the first meeting, I asked to be allowed to visit the security prisoners, but I failed," Turki said.

"I told him the news. He didn't take care about the information I gave him."

The coalition had no immediate comment about Turki's meeting with Bremer.

The minister, whose resignation was formally accepted by the coalition yesterday, said he told Bremer about his meetings with former detainees
http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,9465475%255E1702,00.html
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Greylady Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 03:21 PM
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17. I've just thought of a campaign theme for Kerry;
Accountability! Kerry ~ He's reads the reports, He gets the memos! I'm so sick of everyone in Bush's admin denying that anyone other than *someone deep in the bowels of the CIA* has any information.
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