Mondale Says Cheney Changing Role of VP

[PfcHammer]

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Mondale Says Cheney Changing Role of VP
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By JEFF BARNARD, Associated Press Writer

SELMA, Ore. - Former Vice President Walter F. Mondale said Sunday that the strong role Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) has taken in the White House is changing the way government and politics work.

"This is going to be an issue in the campaign, and it will be an issue for political scientists," Mondale said in an interview following a press conference. "This is starting to bend the political process."

Mondale, 76, was invited to southern Oregon to speak to a community forum serving as a fund-raiser for the Selma Community and Education Center. About 300 people attended.

Mondale served as vice president from 1977 to 1981 under President Jimmy Carter and was defeated as the Democratic presidential candidate running against President Ronald Reagan (news - web sites) in 1984.

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Bizarro World Headline,

Mondale Backs Vice President Cheney

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040503/ap_on_re_us/mondale_cheney_1

[Taylor Mason Powell]

1. What a misleading headline!

Try to find anything anywhere in that article that can be construed at Mondale "backing" Cheney. :wtf:

[fearnobush]

17. JEFF BARNARD, Associated Press Writer

JEFF BARNARD
[phone]

[PfcHammer]

21. the Ministry is now publishing 2 versions of the news

[Tellurian]

33. The Headline is designed to throw you OFF message...

And it's doing exactly that...all the outrage about the headline and very little outrage about the message..

Mondale in essence is saying Cheney IS usurping the presidency.

The example he used is Cheney's own Security Council. Following with this: Cheney's Security Council is NOT subject to public scrutiny!!!!!

[madmax]

2. The title of this article is a bit misleading.

"The vice president has been very direct with other officers in pursuing what he thinks is the right course in national security and other areas," Mondale said. "What I think is wrong with that, is when others hear him talk like that they think the president is behind it. So it sort of chills the kind of vibrant discussion that we need for an open, balanced operation of the federal government.


"Carter would never have tolerated me doing that, and most presidents wouldn't tolerate, because it undermines the capacity of the president to hear it."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040503/ap_on_re_us/monda...

[LittleApple81]

7. He is not backing Cheney. what a lot of bunk in the title. n/t

[Eric J in MN]

3. the headline is nothing like the content

In the content, he criticizes Cheney:

"The vice president has been very direct with other officers in pursuing what he thinks is the right course in national security and other areas," Mondale said. "What I think is wrong with that, is when others hear him talk like that they think the president is behind it. So it sort of chills the kind of vibrant discussion that we need for an open, balanced operation of the federal government.


"Carter would never have tolerated me doing that, and most presidents wouldn't tolerate, because it undermines the capacity of the president to hear it."

[makhno]

4. You gotta be fucking kidding me!

"Carter would never have tolerated me doing that, and most presidents wouldn't tolerate, because it undermines the capacity of the president to hear (vibrant discussion)."

If anything, Mondale condemns Cheney! What the fuck is the AP doing here?

[ashling]

15. Sounds like he'd lie to back him - off a cliff!

[Demoiselle]

5. From the Department of WTF

The Yahoo headline is wrong. Mondale is not backing Cheney on this occasion...he is strongly criticizing him!

[flaminbats]

23. Don't cut off this face despite the nose!

[acmavm]

The dude my be senile.

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[Fenris]

6. I read that article and did not get the impression that he approved

Of Cheney's actions.

[Supormom]

8. I gave the story a rating of 1.

Nowhere in his message did Mondale support cheney.

[whistle]

9. Is this the part where Mondale throughs his support...

...behind V.P. Cheney?

"The vice president has been very direct with other officers in pursuing what he thinks is the right course in national security and other areas," Mondale said. "What I think is wrong with that, is when others hear him talk like that they think the president is behind it. So it sort of chills the kind of vibrant discussion that we need for an open, balanced operation of the federal government.


"Carter would never have tolerated me doing that, and most presidents wouldn't tolerate, because it undermines the capacity of the president to hear it."

That's funny, I see just the opposite. Ha, ReThug Think!

:freak:

[bain_sidhe]

10. Lying by headline

It's an art. Really. I'd bet nine out of ten people don't do more than scan headlines, and they'll probably spend the rest of their lives thinking that Mondale actually backs Cheney.

[makhno]

11. Here's the hack that wrote it

JEFF BARNARD
[phone]
[e-mail]

Bio Link

I'm hesitating to flame the poor bastard, since I don't know if he's the one that picked the headline.

[madmax]

16. Thanks for posting his email

I wrote and asked if he picked the title of the article because in fact it is misleading.

[Eric J in MN]

18. Writers don't choose the headlines. Editors do.

It's not the writer's fault that the editor put a headline on the article which says the opposite of the contents.

[makhno]

19. Yeah, that's why I didn't want to attack the guy

It still boggles my mind how something so egregiously wrong could have gone through the editorial chain. I know AP is usually pretty conservative, but still, this takes the cake.

[Norquist Nemesis]

22. True. But title doesn't state support of actions

contrary to what others have posted. It doesn't state change for the better; just simply change as in different from the past administrations.

The article then reports distinct differences (and definitely identifies the problems with what Bush has allowed Cheney to do).

[makhno]

24. The original title was "Mondale backs Cheney" [nt]

[Norquist Nemesis]

25. Ahh...that's what I get for being a night owl. LOL

Thanks! :)

[makhno]

26. Cheers

:hi:

[crossroads]

28. Yeah, Cheney strikes a pre-emptive agenda

like he knows the pres is *his* yes man.

[despairing optimist]

20. The reporter probably didn't write the headline

Often AP reporters have their stories rewritten after they're filed, and then a copy editor puts on a headline. The headline is probably the fault of an inattentive copy editor who may have been more concerned with space constraints than accuracy. If you want to flame someone, find out the name of the editor who headlined the story.

Failing that, you could e-mail AP, including the headline and story, and ask them to issue a correction in an updated version of the story. The error is just as likely due to deadline pressure as it is to political bias.

[fearnobush]

37. This was not the writers title of the story.

Here is copy of the text sent to me from the AP writer:

I do not know what publication you saw this headline in, or who might have written it. It is not the headline that was on the original AP story that I wrote. The headline included in my story reflected the body of the story.

So - something else was going on with this, it would appear?

[crossroads]

40. Yahoo must have wrote it

I wrote and got an answer from the writer too, and he said the same words to me! Cool, I wonder how many emails he got from DU? I bet a lot!

[pinniped]

12. Welcome to Bizarro World.

n/t

[bluedeminredstate]

13. Your "liberal" press at work again

It's hard for me to believe that they actually used that headline. The conservative mantra that all reporters are closet Pinkos doesn't amount to shit when the editors and higher-ups are slanting their pieces. I wonder how Sean Hannity or O'Reilly would care to explain this...

:eyes:

[0007]

14. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((gong))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Someboby off their fucking feed

[shraby]

27. Mondale Backs

Vice President Cheney is a misleading headline. The text says the opposite. Email them and let them know.:spank:

[not systems]

29. Also in the news chocolate rations increased to 29 grams.

Double plus good.

[SummerGrace]

30. Implied shadow gov't?

Cheney, however, has taken the power of the office to a new level, operating, in effect, with his own National Security Council, Mondale said.

[dusty64]

31. That second headline

is a perfect example of Pravda at work.

[Disturbed]

32. All False

Cheney IS the President!

[Tellurian]

34. kick~

[teryang]

35. Bush I did the same thing

He usurped the power of Reagan by taking operational control over all covert government operations after the Hinckley assassination attempt. The difference was that he wasn't so blatant about his control as Cheney is.

Alternative lines of executive authority emerge early in a dictatorship. If we don't have a legitimate election in 2004, which we may not, this problem will become more apparent. Who will the triumvirs be in the transition phase to total power?

[Tellurian]

36. Yes, you're exactly right!

The Reagan movie shone on SHOWTIME depicted exactly that..

I'll bet it wouldn't be a stretch to see if Nancy Reagan would endorse Kerry.. Dole endorsed him the other day!

[President Jesus]

38. understatement of the year [eom]

[w4rma]

39. Despicable Associated Press editors. (nt)