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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:50 PM
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Koppel: Charges he's unpatriotic beneath contempt
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 08:53 PM by JoFerret
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/30/koppel/

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KOPPEL: Oh, I thought we'd have people who would question our motives. They always do. But, I mean, the fact that the Sinclair Broadcasting Group, for example, would charge me with being unpatriotic, would say I was doing this to undermine the war effort, I think is beneath contempt, quite frankly.

COOPER: Let me quote you two things that they have said in their statement. One, "Mr. Koppel and 'Nightline' are hiding behind the so-called tribute in an effort to highlight only one aspect of the war effort, and in doing so to influence public opinion against the military action in Iraq."

KOPPEL: Yeah. If this were the only thing that "Nightline" had been doing on Iraq or the only thing that "Nightline" was doing in Iraq, that might have some merit to it. I think of all the programs on network television, "Nightline" probably has done more on Iraq over the last 18 months than any other program out there. To suggest that this program exists in a vacuum by itself is just to ignore reality.

COOPER: The other thing that Sinclair brings up, they say, quote, "before you judge our decision, however, we would ask you first question Mr. Koppel as to why he chose to read the names of the 523 troops killed in combat in Iraq rather than the names of the thousands of private citizens killed in terrorist attacks since and including the events of September 11, 2001."

I don't quite get the analogy, but I put it to you.

KOPPEL: I don't either. And it ignores the fact that we have done any number of programs in tribute to the people who have died on 9/11.

And ABC News as a whole has done live coverage of the reading of the names of the people who died on 9/11. I'm not quite sure what he's saying.

COOPER: Lisa de Moraes, the TV columnist of "The Washington Post," I was actually most surprised by what she wrote. She basically said, "It is a cheap, content-free stunt designed to tug at our heartstrings and bag a big number on the second night of the May ratings race."

KOPPEL: Yeah. Well, as, you know, I -- I have to confess that when it comes to thinking of all the things we could have done to bag a huge rating on the second night of sweeps, I have to admit, I'm not proud of this, that I didn't realize the May sweeps began in April. So I didn't even know ...

COOPER: Is that really true, you didn't realize that?

KOPPEL: I didn't realize that. And secondly, I must tell you that the only conversation my executive producer and I had was our perception that most people would probably tune in to this program for a couple of minutes or three or five, and then realize that it's essentially all the same.

Only the faces and the names are changing. And that if anything, we were going to lose audience tonight. And we said, you know something, we don't give a damn. Let's do it anyway. But the suggestion that we did this because we thought we could artificially, you know, hype our ratings, it's pretty contemptible.

COOPER: Because I got to tell you, if you did think that, there was a Michael Jackson hearing today, and you've got to get some better people advising you on how to boost ratings.

KOPPEL: You and I were kidding about it beforehand. We could have done Michael Jackson, Kobe Bryant, Laci Peterson, anyone of them would do more to boost the ratings. But I'm afraid that's not "Nightline," as our viewers know.

COOPER: Let me ask you, how much of your decision was -- to do this was based on your own experience as being embedded during the war?

KOPPEL: I wouldn't focus it on that. Over the course of the past 41 years, I've covered about 11 wars, or 12 wars, beginning in 1967 in Vietnam.

And if there's one thing I've come to feel very strongly is that we have a responsibility in our business to keep reminding people of the cost of war.
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:59 PM
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1. Kudos to Koppel.
"And if there's one thing I've come to feel very strongly is that we have a responsibility in our business to keep reminding people of the cost of war."
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:55 PM
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11. O"Reilly had the pres from the 8 chikenshit sinclair stations on his show
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 09:59 PM by saigon68
They took Koppel to pieces in absentia. against the troops, un amerikan, un patriotic, anti war apologist, hurting the families, spreading propaganda. It was really really juvenile.

The president of the sinclair stations even mentioned he IS in the Naval reserve (pulls out the serving soldier card) and EVERYONE THERE AGREES WITH HIM.

On Edit; According to the "naval hero" its all liberal mind contol
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 12:11 AM
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14. Did you hear the story about this guy?
Arrested in 1996 for soliciting a prostitute. I saw it on buzzflash.

Typical.

http://www.wgoeshome.com


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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:01 PM
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2. When neocon media strikes out against Koppel
they only undermine the neocon claim of liberal media. Pretty hard to maintain that position in light of recent events coming to light. Surely more and more Americans have to be getting a clue about how much control these people have been exercising.

Most people will surely wonder why there is a faction of the 'liberal media' so intent on not setting aside time to solemnly acknowledge the names of those who gave their lives in honorable service to dishonorable leaders.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:19 PM
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7. when they complaing about "the liberal media" ...

... what they really mean is "any media that tells the truth".

These people want a party-controlled press, pure and simple. A press that reports only what the party declares. A press that censors what the party doesn't want people to see. A press that is anything but fair, anything but balanced, and anything but free.


MDN




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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 01:10 PM
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17. Actually the guy was Mark Hyman
Tune into the evening news on Madison, Wisconsin's Fox TV affiliate and behold the future of local news. In the program's concluding segment, "The Point," Mark Hyman rants against peace activists ("wack-jobs"), the French ("cheese-eating surrender monkeys"), progressives ("loony left") and the so-called liberal media, usually referred to as the "hate-America crowd" or the "Axis of Drivel." Colorful, if creatively anemic, this is TV's version of talk radio, with the precisely tanned Hyman playing a second-string Limbaugh.


Fox 47's right-wing rants may be the future of hometown news, but – believe it or not – it's not the program's blatant ideological bias that is most worrisome. Here's the real problem: Hyman isn't the station manager, a local crank, or even a journalist. He is the Vice President of Corporate Communications for the station's owner, the Sinclair Broadcast Group. And this segment of the local news isn't exactly local. Hyman's commentary is piped in from the home office in Baltimore, MD, and mixed in with locally-produced news. Sinclair aptly calls its innovative strategy "NewsCentral" - it is very likely to spell the demise of local news as we know it.


http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15718
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:04 PM
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3. thank you Ted...
..for reminding us of the America we're losing. My first anti-war protest was in Reston, Virginia-- must have been about 1970 or so, in which speaker after speaker read the the names of the dead. That was all-- dignified, and devasting. I have been a committed ant-war activist ever since.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:08 PM
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4. If Koppel's program is unpatriotic then blow up the Viet Nam War memorial.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:14 PM
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5. It's good really, because the press needs to get angry
They have been whores for this treason and apparently they need to get angry at their "bosses" before they will tell the truth.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:18 PM
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6. One by One
The uber-patriots are pissing off independent-minded people. Basic cognitive dissonance. Once that happens, you talk yourself into disagreeing more and more with the people who criticized you. More enemies every day for the Bushies.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 12:53 PM
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16. Yep, The lunacy of the Bushies is revealing itself to an
ever increasing # in the Press.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:25 PM
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8. I saw this interview, and I thought
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 09:25 PM by Ilsa
it was pretty well done. Koppel got to answer all the "charges" against him. I didn't hear Cooper giving him a hard time or interrupting, etc. I actually got he impression that AC might be either neutral or on Ted's side on this. It sounded as if they were both having an insiders' laugh at the Michael Jackson/Peterson/Kobe stories taking up all the time on what is supposed to be "news" programs and how they pander to the lowest common denominator for ratings.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:47 PM
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10. I think I'm replying to a 'goofy bastard'!
....I hope not something worse.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:06 PM
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12. anyone know ...
which sponsors pulled their ads off tonight's broadcast? I want to write to them and boycott them.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:38 PM
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13. Will someone please explain to me ...
what exactly is "unpatriotic" about honoring those who gave their lives serving our country? :wtf:

Hey Sinclair ... the names of ALL the WTC victims were read publicly at a televised ceremony on the one year anniversary. I believe the same thing was done at the ceremonies in Washington and PA for those victims. Was that "unpatriotic" as well? :eyes:

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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 01:57 PM
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18. that is what is baffling to me too
why is it unpatriotic? I suppose, cuz it doesn't help little georgie bush get elected.

I think that there are many people who have been vocal about supporting bush and this war who are now having an internal struggle. They are too bigoted and pigheaded to admit they were wrong, especially after all their ranting and raving. Now, I wonder if they are not realizing what they did and rather than admiting they were wrong, they feel threatened and come up with more illogical and extreme arguements. Like reading the names of the dead off being unpatriotic. They labeled the act, but have no explanation as to why.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 12:49 PM
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15. This guy is on fire!
Edited on Sat May-01-04 12:52 PM by 9215
He has thrown down the gauntlet.

What I can't get over is how easy Nightline has been on the subject of this war, the 9/11 investigations and the role the Bushboy admin has played in it. It is now glaringly obvious that the Press is not playing the war for ratings, but that they were grossly neglectful in not being more questioning from the outset.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 02:18 PM
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19. The Topsy-turvy Orwellian US
Edited on Sat May-01-04 02:19 PM by Politicub
When a broadcast network that is honoring our war dead is taken to task for being unpatriotic, it must be Bush's America.

The Bush administration has been like a psycho, through-the-looking-glass Jeff Foxworthy world. Instead of "you just might be a redneck," you might just be in Bush's America.

"If the President proposes amending the Constitution to ban gay marriage because Adam may love Steve instead of Eve, you must be living in Bush's America."

"If the 'freedom to drink clean water' initiative involves allowing arsenic-tainted industrial waste to drain into municipal reservoirs, you must be living in Bush's America."

any more? :)

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