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the ether Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:23 PM
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Kucinich Calls for Suspension of Electronic Voting!!!!
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
APRIL 23, 2004
6:08 PM
CONTACT: Kucinich Campaign
Matt Harris, 216.403.3980, press@kucinich.us
Terre Lundy, 515.988.5534

Kucinich Calls for Suspension of Electronic Voting


CLEVELAND - April 23 - Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, who has been sounding warning alarms regarding electronic voting systems since he began his campaign last year, today called on federal, state and local election officials “to suspend immediately the implementation of any voting systems that do not provide a 100 percent reliable paper-trail back-up to corroborate results.”

A decision yesterday by the eight-member California Voting Systems and Procedures Panel that 15,000 electronic voting machines in four counties be banned in the November election because of “glitches” in the March primary election “is more than enough evidence that these systems could undermine the integrity and affect the results of November’s general election,” Kucinich said.

Especially in terms of the Presidential election, Kucinich said, “we cannot entrust the future of our country to technologies that are flawed, suspect, and proven to have failed, especially when those technologies have been developed by companies that have their own political agendas.”

Diebold Election Systems, which came under the harshest criticism from the California elections panel, is headed by Chief Executive Officer Walden O'Dell, who last year became active in the re-election effort of President Bush, even attending a strategy meeting with wealthy Bush benefactors at the President's private ranch in Texas. Soon after, O’Dell wrote a fundraising letter where he said he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

Although Diebold is the most embattled voting equipment company, Newsday reported that “paperless systems made by Sequoia Voting Systems Inc. and other competitors also expose elections to malicious attack, software glitches and mechanical errors that could delete or alter millions of ballots.” The story went on to report a variety of other problems in Indiana, Maryland, and other states. According to Newsday, “Because votes that only exist in electronic form can be altered or deleted, Oregon, New Hampshire and Illinois require paper ballots; and California, Missouri and Nevada will require paper backups on touchscreen terminals by 2006.” The newspaper also reported that “Secretaries of state in Washington and West Virginia are calling for paper trails, while Ohio is reconsidering the switch to new machines.”

Kucinich said he will take his challenges to the newly created federal agency charged with overseeing electronic voting, the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, established in January, which will conduct a May 5 public hearing in Washington, D.C. on May 5.

“The technological problems are real,” Kucinich said, “and the potential for further problems, mischief, and outright fraud is equally real, and far more dangerous.”

(Extensive information on electronic voting systems is available at http://www.kucinich.us/e-voting/intro.php

For information about the National campaign: http://www.kucinich.us
For Congressman Kucinich's Schedule: http://www.kucinich.us/schedule.htm
To schedule an interview with Kucinich or spokesperson: interviews@kucinich.us


http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0423-11.htm
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:24 PM
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1. YESSSSSSSSS ! ! ! !
Thank You Dennis :loveya:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:37 PM
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2. Go, Dennis, Go.
He's been on this issue all year; what a great service he's doing for all democrats and for the general election this fall. This man is a champion.

:loveya:
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:41 PM
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3. Yes! DK
but will the media cover this?
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:41 PM
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4. the only pol with character IMHO--go Dennis!!
:kick:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:06 PM
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10. Heh...I fought that battle about him for years.
So many would question his creds because he had some issues where he aligned with conservatives, especially on abortion and flagburning. Some of my feminist friends called him a DINO and beat on my support for his early candidacies for congress.

Kucinich's character was sterling in my view and I always knew that he'd become more liberal because his heart and soul were certainly there already.

Now, if only he'd drop support for a flagburning amendment he'd be almost perfect.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:48 PM
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5. Remind me, why was he "unelectable"?
He is ten times better than Kerry. So sad the Party made decision they did.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:52 PM
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6. He sure is trying isn't he?
He's still getting my vote May 4th!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:00 PM
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7. YAY DENNIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He'll go down in history as one of the greatest congressmen of the century.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:02 PM
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8. We can always
count on him to do and say the right thing. Way to go Dennis, keep it up. We still need your voice.
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:03 PM
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9. Why isn't he our candidate?
We had a chance and blew it.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:10 PM
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11. because he's a crazy and short wacko
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:15 PM
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12. well...
he doesn't pretend he can fly or wear a superman costume...
(see above)
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:26 PM
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15. hahaha....it's an icon
;-)
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:25 PM
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14. Leave Dean out of it
Yeaaarrrrrggggghh.
dp
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:35 PM
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16. wow what a beautifully thought out and articulated statement.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:14 PM
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18. Dean is one inch taller--
--but he isn't 'short'?
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 09:38 PM
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41. They are all much shorter than Dennis
when it comes to his intellect, his vision, and his integrity. No one else even comes close to measuring up.
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:12 PM
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24. What an idiotic comment
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:13 PM
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25. Kucinich may be the greatest man alive
I think he probably is
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 10:51 PM
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43. No, that's that other guy...
:+
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:17 PM
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13. YAH!!!!......Come on Poppy/Babs/Jeb/Niel/and.....Georgie.........
Don't you think that every vote counts?????

Don't Y'all believe in a fair election????

Don't y'all believe in a real Democracy????

LOL!!!!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:45 PM
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17. I suggest that all DUers endorse Kucinich's call, or else
we may all be sorry as to how the votes were counted in November, without any audit trail to verify it.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:10 AM
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19. Support Dennis NOW!
We want a real, verifiable election. Dennis can not be our candidate for President, he sure as hell can be our candidate for change and reform.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:17 PM
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26. As a write -in!!!..............Go Dennis!!!!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:34 PM
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28. I am voting for Dennis on May 4 in the Indiana primary
A proud vote for the only antiwar and liberal candidate left in the race!
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:13 AM
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20. Kucinich calls it. Plain and simple.
Nothing more need be said. The one man trying to save this country.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:20 AM
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21. DK always tells the truth
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 01:12 AM by ZombyWoof
Ahead of the curve again. :thumbsup:

STILL a DKer here. Always will be too. Only in an insane world could he be seen as insane, and his intellectual stature beats physical stature any day. By stating the clear and present truth, he gets mocked by those left behind in a cloud of their own disappointments and failures because of the charaltans they placed their hopes and dreams in. But I digress.

Have yet to read a valid critique of DK on these boards yet - one that doesn't reach for ad hominem nonsense.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:49 AM
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22. Proud to have voted for DK in the CA primary.
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 12:49 AM by LibDemAlways
Wish there were thousands more in elected office like him. We'd all be better off.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 01:12 AM
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23. Amen!!!!
N/T

:kick:
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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:34 PM
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29. Dennis Kucinich is a fine man indeed
I voted for him myself. He has the best ideas. I've noticed that the other candidates are now copying much of what he has already said, like the US out of Iraq and the UN in. Why don't the American people realize what a treasure this man is? I have the utmost respect for him!

You keep going Dennis Kucinich!

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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:31 PM
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27. AP Photo


Robert Howe, left, of Placerville, dressed as a vote-eating computer, demonstrates against the touch screen voting systems, while Laramie Crocker, of Berkeley, right, sings against the use of the same machines outside the Secretary of State's office in Sacramento, Calif., Wednesday, April 21, 2004. More then a two dozen activisits rallied against the use of electronic voting machines citing the lack of a paper verification (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:37 PM
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30. Halaf#cking leujah !
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 12:37 PM by bearfan454
We need to keep pressing this every chance we can.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 01:22 PM
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31. Way to go Dennis! Right on par (as per usual)
Thank you for being a beacon of reasoning to the Democratic Party.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 01:36 PM
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32. a little serendipidity here...
I was at a breakfast Friday, April 23, and heard Kucinich speak.

I asked him specifically to look into violations of the HAVA act at the federal level (this way our activists don't have to fight county by county and state by state) and have the machines decertified by November .

I told him that I am a software engineer with 20 years experience in the business on mission critical systems and that I have seen the Diebold code. I said the code is not reliable, secure, or auditable and that it must be decertified at the federal level.

Can't claim credit for the press release but did add my two cents worth in.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:05 PM
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36. Let me tell you, your contribution is seriously appreciated.
You never know - your voice might have been the one to guide him toward this step. Nice thought, eh?

:)

It takes a thousand tiny pebbles to start an avalanche.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 02:27 PM
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33. DK, way ahead of the curve as usual. THIS is what courage is.
He was the first to speak out against the war and the first to speak out against the Bush corruption.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 02:52 PM
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34. I'd trust Dennis with my life, he's got no strings attached!
I trust him that much, that's why I voted for him-he is a way to restore trust in leadership, he isn't far-out at all and the Democratic Party should not marginalize his views imo.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 02:56 PM
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35. Dennis, I love you, but - VOTER-VERIFIED PAPER BALLOT.
I appreciate DK's forward-looking stance on this issue, and literally jumped for joy when he posted portions of the infamous Diebold memos, thus cutting off attacks on people who took the risk of legal action to post them.

However, someone needs to remind him that it's a VVPB we need - and why.

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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:28 PM
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37. This is why I'm still backing Dennis.
He is continuing to fight for us.
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Lalena Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 04:13 PM
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38. Good for Dennis. See yesterday's Diebold related thread.
If you didn't see this yesterday, check out this bit of news about an investigation of Diebold that could result in criminal and civil charges against the firm for violating state election laws in California.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x505657
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 04:51 PM
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39. Yea for Dennis and Bev Harris n/t
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 09:35 PM
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40. Late Saturday nite
:kick:

cause you ought to read it if you missed it....
dp
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 10:49 PM
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42. You tell 'em DK!
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:04 AM
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44. Dennis against the world, by gosh now this is...
a real leader for the people. Go Dennis!
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