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Hoosier Daddy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:32 PM
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Pakistanis Tied to 2007 Border Ambush on Americans
Source: New York Times

KABUL, Afghanistan — A group of American military officers and Afghan officials had just finished a five-hour meeting with their Pakistani hosts in a village schoolhouse settling a border dispute when they were ambushed — by the Pakistanis.

An American major was killed and three American officers were wounded, along with their Afghan interpreter, in what fresh accounts from the Afghan and American officers who were there reveal was a complex, calculated assault by a nominal ally. The Pakistanis opened fire on the Americans, who returned fire before escaping in a blood-soaked Black Hawk helicopter.

The attack, in Teri Mangal on May 14, 2007, was kept quiet by Washington, which for much of a decade has seemed to play down or ignore signals that Pakistan would pursue its own interests, or even sometimes behave as an enemy.

The reconstruction of the attack, which several officials suggested was revenge for Afghan or Pakistani deaths at American hands, takes on new relevance given the worsening rupture in relations between Washington and Islamabad, which has often been restrained by Pakistan’s strategic importance.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/world/asia/pakistanis-tied-to-2007-attack-on-americans.html



Pakistan. Israel. With friends like these...:puke:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:37 PM
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1. The NYT...
'...with friends like these."

Carlotta Gall.

"Gall" works.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:45 PM
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3. You gotta love how she refers to unnamed sources, tells a story with a lot of blanks,
Edited on Tue Sep-27-11 12:47 PM by closeupready
and yes, of course, as you point out, it's the same NY Times in which Judith Miller ran with Bush's false yellowcake story. And somehow, it's supposed to add up, except, 1 plus 2 does not equal 5, even if your headline says it does.

Every US soldier lost in action makes me so angry about this fucking war. It doesn't help matters to have our media advance the M.I.C. agenda of War Forever, For Always. THAT, also makes me angry. :mad:

>>The official did not want to be named for fear of alienating the Pakistanis, with whom he must still work.<<

>>the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because his job does not permit him to talk to journalists.<<

Sorry, Ms. Gall. You have to do a lot better than this unverifiable stuff.
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Hoosier Daddy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 03:36 PM
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6. Hey, it was in the News Section
Don't shoot: I just posted it is all! :scared:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 03:49 PM
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7. Totally fine; don't take it personally.
Most thinking people (such as you and I) hold the media to a fairly high standard; that's all I was doing. It was worth posting, since it was in the NY Times, but it was also worth criticizing and laughing at how transparently pro-war it was, and bad journalism besides. :D :hi:
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Hoosier Daddy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 04:06 PM
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9. You're right
"The Paper of Record" has lost a LOT of cred.
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bongbong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:43 PM
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2. The ramp up is going quickly
Edited on Tue Sep-27-11 12:45 PM by bongbong
The ramp up by TPTB to demonize Pakistan is really gaining speed quickly! Next stage will be lots of reports of atrocities by the Pakistan government against their citizens, probably in the New York Times.

I predict we'll need to go in and "liberate" them soon. Maybe in time for football season...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:49 PM
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4. Translation: "Time To Bomb Pakistan!"
More.





:think:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:49 PM
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5. Mine the harbors, blow the bridges
isn't that how the tune goes?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 08:07 PM
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11. Been there, done that
we all know how that turned out.
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Hoosier Daddy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 08:28 PM
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12. 'nam is 'nored
ig, that is. :(
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:18 AM
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14. Looking Forward
Spellman's War

The real reasons behind Viet Nam War:

http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/spell240246.html

--snip--

THE AMERICAN POPE


The Cardinal's message was clear. The fall of Vietnam brought the day closer when Communists would dominate the United States. "We shall risk bartering our liberties for lunacies, betraying the sacred trust of our forefathers, becoming serfs and slaves to the Red ruler's godless goons," he swore.

The other speakers needed no introduction: Madame Chiang Kaishek and Admiral Arthur W. Radford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who was a familiar figure at the Powerhouse. Both speakers were friends of the Cardinal and shared his conservative views. Madame Chiang lamented that the Soviets had corrupted the "minds and souls of those who became its puppets--the Chinese Communists." Radford asserted that the United States should be ready to police the world. The audience wildly applauded each speaker, but it was Spellman who brought them to their feet in a thunderous ovation. At the conclusion of the meeting, the Cardinal asked the legionnaires to pray for God's intervention. If Eisenhower wouldn't listen to Spellman, perhaps he would heed the Almighty. "Be with us, Blessed Lord," the Cardinal intoned, "lest we forget and surrender to those who have attacked us without cause, those who repaid us with evil for good and hatred for love."

The day after the convention the impact of Spellman's address was noted in the press. New York Daily News columnist John O'Donnell, for example, reported: "From a political viewpoint-- global, national and New York State--the speech delivered by Cardinal Spellman was by far the most significant and important heard here at the convention....''

--snip--


Not the first Crusade, and it won't be the last.
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tawadi Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 03:49 PM
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8. K&R
No need to mention Israel here though.
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Hoosier Daddy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 05:50 PM
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10. Need
Another country that puts our soldiers in danger.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:32 PM
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13. Pakistan's chargesheet is full and evidence incontrovertible.
Let's punish Pakistan severely.

If Pakistani military/ISI didn't exist, there would be no Taliban and no Al Q'aeda. So let's eliminate the source of terror by destroying all of Pakistan's military assets -- airports, planes, ships, tanks, nuclear installations, power plants and soldiers.

The victory in Afghanistan would be automatic.
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