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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 12:00 PM Original message |
Nightmare in Libya: 20,000 Surface-to-Air Missiles Missing |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. When you arm everyone in a room, why act surprised if you wind up getting shot? |
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Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. "Turns out Ike was right about the military-industrial complex"... exactly. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Yep. Why would a country with 6 million people need 20 thousand surface to air missiles? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Why just military jets? |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. Um...because they have enemies... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-29-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
51. Yeah, it's not like they ever got attacked by powerful air forces |
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PacerLJ35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. The US MIC didn't sell these...they came from Russia |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. Wonder how many are US made? Chinese? Russian? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. They are Russian. |
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PacerLJ35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Interesting comment... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. Fearmongering bullshit at its worst. These cannot "bring down a commercial jet liner." |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. nonsense |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I've actually flown aircraft. I think I know what 12,000 feet is. |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Fine, so if an airliner is taken down on approach or takeoff, it doesn't count? |
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christx30 (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I live just on the |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. You are simply misinformed |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. How about TWA flight 800? |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. When TWA Flight 800 went down it was climbing to 15,000 |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. All I know is this |
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xrdan (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
52. For what it's worth... |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Or maybe |
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PacerLJ35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. I've actually flown aircraft too... |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
53. How far away can an airplane be from its point of takeoff before its reaches 12,000 ft? |
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PacerLJ35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. That's also assuming... |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. These airliners can be shot down on approach to landing or takeoff |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. Thousands of surface-to-air missles? Nah, nothing to see here, folks. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Trust Libya with nuclear power says Sarkozy |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Well, it isn't Qadaffi they have to worry about now. It appears to be |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. Are these planes flying at 12,000 feet? |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. LAX. SFO, Oakland, Laguardia, JFK, DFW, Logan. And on. And on. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-29-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
50. Commercial Jetliners descend below 10,000'... |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
56. Wow. That's so off base it's funny. |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Notice how the "pilot" never returned to this thread? |
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bongbong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. Who could have forseen this? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. +1. nt |
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bluebuzzard (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Who could have foreseen this? |
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bongbong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Right over your head |
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bluebuzzard (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Bong |
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bongbong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Embedded |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Yup. |
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bongbong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Yep |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Ah, the prescience. nt |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Remember when we averaged a plane hijacking a month? |
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bongbong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Not important |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
13. The SA-24 is effective at up to 3.5 km altitude (11,500 feet) |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. There's absolutely no way Obama could ever have foreseen that |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. Nope. Doing an on-the-cheap bit of imperialism shouldn't cause any unintended consequences. |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
59. What does Obama have to do with Russian missiles? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. C.J. Chivers was reporting on this months ago. Some of them at least were used by rebels against... |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. Of limited usefulness, even against air ports |
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Robert_C (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. More of a threat to Heathrow |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. You must understand what is the most feared weapons when it comes to Airport Runways |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. Chicago's ORD is surrounded by thousands of acres of forest preserve. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
26. "Matching up a terrorist with a shoulder-fired missile, that's our worst nightmare," |
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marasinghe (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
30. re. "What could possibly go wrong?" - no worries. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
36. Follow the money. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
43. Mission accomplished! |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-29-11 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
49. These things have been floating around on the black market forever |
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BadGimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-11 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. somebody call JACK RYAN quick! |
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