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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 12:08 PM
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Groundwater flowing into Fukushima nuclear plant
Source: Mainichi Shimbun

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Tuesday it suspects that 200 to 500 tons a day of groundwater might be flowing through pits and wall cracks into reactor and turbine buildings at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant crippled by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.

The suspicion is based on the fact that a decline in water levels in these buildings has slowed down.

"The suspected groundwater inflow is now unlikely to cause problems as the plant is capable of treating nearly 1,000 tons of radiation-contaminated water," said an official at the company known as TEPCO.


Read more: http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110920p2a00m0na006000c.html



Do "pits and wall cracks" only allow one-way flow of groundwater?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 12:21 PM
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1. "Everything is just peachy. Smirk." - Nuclear Officials
Edited on Tue Sep-20-11 12:22 PM by SpiralHawk
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 12:36 PM
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2. "treating" 1,000 tones of contaminated water..."
does that mean dumping it?
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 12:47 PM
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3. Oh, don't worry: it's flowing right back out.
;-)
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 02:57 PM
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4. Oh, well everything is OK then.
"Out of sight out of mind" is the motto of polluters of all stripes, but it seems particularly dear to the hearts of those in the nuclear industry.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:08 PM
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5. But not as bad as Chernobyl.
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:40 PM
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7. Of course not!
Chernobyl would have been just peachy had the owners not been "Commie Reds."

No mistake a capitalist makes is ever a "mistake." It's an "unforeseen event."
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:46 PM
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8. Actually....
Chernobyl was so badly designed it would have been illegal anywhere except in the workers and peasants paradise. Indeed with the possible exception of the Windscale plant it was one of the worst reactor designs ever.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 08:58 PM
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10. You mean other than the one sitting on various fault lines, leaking into the ocean currently? n/t
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:30 AM
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13. Which one is that?
Fukushima is actually far from the fault line (Which is way out at sea).
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:11 PM
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11. I was friends with a physicist who worked on the Manhattan Project.
She told me that there are lots of reactors in the U.S. with the same design as that of Chernobyl. She told me not to believe the media reassuring us that it could never happen here.
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 04:13 AM
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14. Your friend is wrong.
There are no reactor designs like that outside the old soviet block, something for which we all should be very grateful. Indeed, IIRC, it is illegal to build reactors with positive void coefficients.

ps: With the possible exception of some old small reserarch reactors back in the early days of the nuclear era, if your friend indeed worked on that project then it is probably those she remembers in her old age.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:47 PM
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15. "The pile" under the UChi stadium was an aircooled graphite reactor, like Chernobyl
I agree, there haven't been any more built in the US except research reactors since the dawn of the age.
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:16 PM
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16. Chernobyl...
...was watercooled. With the exception of the British AGRs I doubt there are any power generating reactors operating.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 10:40 PM
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12. No, it's worse than Chernobyl!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

(I see your four and raise you one.)
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 11:55 PM
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19. Yes, not as bad.
Worse than Chernobyl.


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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:38 PM
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6. 500 tons?
Did they build the damn thing in a river or something?
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Bosonic Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:51 PM
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9. Expect an uptick in water
Typhoon Roke on Track for Leaking Nuke Plant

Typhoon Roke brought evacuation orders and fears of floods to Nagoya city in central Japan today as it approached the main island of Honshu on a course toward the crippled Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant.

More than 1 million people in Nagoya have been advised to evacuate because of Roke and almost 80,000 have been ordered to leave due to flood risk, said Katsuya Kobayashi in the city’s disaster prevention center.

That’s more than double the numbers for typhoon Talas earlier this month, which dumped record rainfall on southern Japan, causing mudslides and floods that killed 67 people and left 26 missing. Talas was the deadliest storm to hit Japan in seven years.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-20/typhoon-roke-hits-japan-on-course-for-leaking-nuclear-plant.html
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CaliforniaHiker Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 09:54 PM
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17. Nothing to worry about
Really, I'm sure there is nothing to see here. We know that they would tell us if we needed to be concerned.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 10:18 PM
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18. K/R -- Was listening to Gary Null today -- on UN station? -- re nuclear reactors -- YIKES!!
Of course, I've been aruging that we need to shut these things down because

of Global Warming --

might be the difference between "a whimper or a bang" -- !!

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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 01:58 PM
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20. Consider where your sushi is coming from
think I'll stick to kappa maki, but not if the cucumber was grown in Japan.
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