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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:56 PM
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House GOP rejects Obama jobs proposals
Source: CBS/AP

WASHINGTON — House Republican leaders say they are rejecting President Barack Obama's jobs proposals to rebuild schools and blighted neighborhoods, and help keep state and local employees on the job.

In a memo to GOP lawmakers that was also issued publicly and reprinted in The New York Times, House Speaker John Boehner, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., and other Republican leaders also objected to the president's proposal for a temporary reduction in payroll taxes, in order to boost consumer spending and increase demand.

The GOP leaders say such a temporary reduction means taxes will go up later when the reduction expires in 2013.
"While employees would see an additional temporary benefit from this proposal in 2012," they wrote, "they would experience a larger effective tax increase 12 months later when the payroll tax reverted back to its full level.

The memo says Mr. Obama's proposal to spend $50 billion to repair and improve infrastructure and to create a $10 billion national infrastructure bank is "adding more money to the same broken system," and is "more likely to produce waste and inefficiency than meaningful results."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/17/politics/main20107733.shtml
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:01 PM
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1. Why, I'm shocked - just shocked, I tell ya.
/irony alert

:eyes:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:12 PM
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2. It will be interesting to hear them justify refusing to extend the payroll tax cut holiday - their
excuse is that if they extend it for 2012, it will only go up in 2013.

I don't recall hearing them argue that as a reason NOT to extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich until 2013.

Gawd, we have got to nail their asses to the ground over this.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:21 PM
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26. Well maybe they are saying
It should be longer then. LOL! I'm for that. Is any of this surprising to anybody? I still can't believe people still vote for these clowns.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:21 AM
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30. I'm fine with their not extending the payroll tax holiday. The last thing we need to do
is artifically create deficits in OASDI.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:15 PM
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3. The GOP are 11 on the 1-10 asshole scale. Spinal Tap would be proud. n/t
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:18 PM
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4. The party of no
Are living up to their name, and all our expectations of them.

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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:20 PM
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5. Cue Gomer: "Well, SUH-PRIZE, SUH-PRIZE!
Situation Normal...
SNAFU
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:27 PM
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6. Should read " House GOP reject jobs for Americans".
Its all in the framing.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:32 PM
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8. What I find hilarious is that the media calls the GOP proposals "GOP job Proposals"
as if they are actually proposing ways to create jobs. There's only one real job proposal, and that's Obama's.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:32 PM
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7. that's the cue for obama to wave the white flag...again? nt
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:33 PM
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9. wave the white flag or use this as his referendum for re election
he's got one of two options, I hope he goes for the latter
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:30 PM
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42. he'd better not wave that flag or I'm not voting for him. I'll sit this one out
Which I've NEVER done before
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:02 PM
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13. Yep. And seek 'common ground', i.e. devastating Social Security
(or Medicare or Medicaid)...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:29 AM
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32. He seems to be fighting for this
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=254871&kaid=85&subid=65


In contrast with other things that he claimed he wanted, but (sigh) just couldn't get.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:37 PM
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10. Why does the GOP hate America?
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:41 PM
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20. They don't
Hate America, just the mericans, especially that BLACK one in the white house
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:51 PM
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11. And spending to fix roads and bridges = adding money to a broken system?
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 04:52 PM by starroute
They're really going to have some explaining to do on that one. Are they proposing that it's cheaper to let our roads and bridges and dams fall apart and then have private corporations rebuild them from scratch -- for hefty user fees, of course?

Or do they think the country should do without an infrastructure completely and quietly revert to the Middle Ages while their corporate masters fly overhead in their (tax-deductible) corporate jets?

Either way makes something less than no sense at all.

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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:00 PM
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12. The repukes weren't all that worried when
they passed the Part D Rx plan that wasn't funded and added big bucks to the deficit. As I remember, didn't cheney say that deficits didn't matter? Aren't there any repukes who are out of work and would love to have a job repairing infrastructure and schools? Are they all rich?
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:04 PM
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14. No, but they all believe that, if they tap their heels together three
times, close their eyes very very hard and are merciless to those less fortunate than themselves that they too will be rich someday. (Psychiatrists call it 'magical thinking'). Go Green!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 02:38 AM
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29. They ALSO weren't that worried...
when they started two off-budget wars.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:11 AM
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34. that's right, added more deficit
and allowed big pharma more moolah on the backs of the elderly. When my in-laws fall into the donut hole, they won't buy medicine--it's too expensive.

The repug job plan is allow deregulation (I guess more than little boots deregulated) allowing any corporation foreign or domestic to have a field day-water, air, land, food poisoning and allow them even more access to our resources on the cheap (as if it isn't cheap enough). And, since those obscene trickle on tax cuts have worked so well for over ten years, give the obscenely wealthy even more tax cuts so that they can finally get all of the moolah. Who needs those stinkin plebes. And then to garner more wealth on wall street, cut wages even lower and allow children to work in the new deregulated atmosphere, so that everyone in the "new" family can share in surviving.

Oh wait!!! Why I believe this is the same idea in the gilded age. The age of the greedy, corrupt robber barons.

These "new" repugs don't even hold a candle to the "old" repugs. They'd sell out the people and country to the highest bidder while waving a flag and talking about jaysus. People are hurting in this country and all they think about is gaining POWER again after fekking it up for eight damn years.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:08 PM
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15. I hope everybody knows where Obama will be Thursday-
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 05:12 PM by Pirate Smile
Obama Plants His Flag On Boehner’s Bridge



President Obama is taking his message about the need to fix the country’s aging infrastructure and create jobs about as close as you can get to Speaker John Boehner’s (R-OH) district next Thursday. And he’ll have a pretty powerful visual behind him: Cincinnati’s crumbling Brent Spence Bridge.

The bridge spans Cincinnati and northern Kentucky. Obama plans to use the backdrop of the bridge to drive home the point that Congress should pass the American jobs Act in order to secure much-needed investments in infrastructure projects across the country and put more Americans back to work,
White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters Thursday.

The President mentioned the city’s aging bridge in his joint address to Congress last Thursday.
“There’s a bridge that needs repair between Ohio and Kentucky that’s on one of the busiest trucking routes in North America,” Obama said in his speech.

-snip-
According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, the Brent Spence Bridge linking Ohio and Kentucky carries hundreds of thousands of vehicles a day and billions in goods a year - 4 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product, by some estimates.
The bridge carries traffic from Interstates 75 and 71, along with substantial amounts of freight, over the river. Overhaul is expected to cost well over $2 billion and take years, but despite years of planning the project still lacks all the funding needed from the federal government and the two states.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/obama-plants-his-flag-on-boehners-bridge.php



Cincinnati’s crumbling Brent Spence Bridge.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:23 AM
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35. I guess we're all libertarians now?
Government for war, business for everything else, and one huge impoverished nation full of cheap janitors and laborers serving the elite class.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:32 PM
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43. O needs to counter with "REPAIRING the broken system"
Geesh
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:35 PM
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16. Republicans could care less if a bridge drops into the Ohio River and kills hundreds...
The Republicans have learned that they can Bully Obama and get away with it.

End of story.

NOTHING will be accomplished between now and 2012. The only problem.. the country doesn't have the luxury of waiting that long... we have already wasted almost 3 long years of doing nothing... we are in deep doo doo.
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tropicanarose Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:09 PM
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17. wow, this is a surprise. *insert sarcasm font* Why can't there be ANY compromise? What is wrong?!?
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 06:10 PM by tropicanarose
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:23 PM
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19. +1. There is an election in 2012, and Mitch McConnell said first priority is defeating Obama
That's it. That's all there is to it. Screw the people without jobs. They don't matter now, and they will matter even less in a Perry/Kochs administration.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:34 PM
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44. Mitch-boy thinks he can do this by letting bridges fall in rivers & potholes wreck people's cars?
The repukes are nuts.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 09:45 PM
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41. It Takes About 6-8 Months
For economic policy to be felt. The election is nearly 14 months away. Now would you want the economy to start improving around April-May of 2012 if you were a Republican? I think that answers itself.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:35 PM
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45. good point
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:15 PM
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18. fine... make them vote against it over and over again
and make sure a lot of the infrastructure they're voting down multiple times would be built in their own districts.
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Pavlo Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:23 PM
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27. That's not the problem
I don't know of any democrats that have signed on to Obama's
jobs bill, in either the house or the senate.
After all the latest news of what has happened in the prior
spending stimulus, that the amount of waste could fund a new
jobs bill, and that knowledge could sink any democrat chances
who might be campaigning for re-election.
So whats going on?
Obama's  bill has not been introduced into the congress to
date, and/or no democrat wants to introduce his bill, the
black caucus is not behind this bill, and/or is there really a
jobs bill. Something is going on.
There is more that meets the eye here and I don't think we are
getting the whole story.
It is getting difficult to tell the rhetoric from the campaign
effort. I just don't know who to 
trust any longer.  
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:25 AM
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31. Some good points there, Pavlo. Welcome to DU.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 04:56 PM
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39. introduce it piecemeal
tack riders onto other legislation to push excerpts, just the "juicy bits"
above all, make them vote against it
we all knew from the get-go that the whole thing was NEVER going to pass this house, maybe not even be introduced as a single body of legislation
but if the republicants don't even have to vote against parts of it, then Obama just wasted a phenomenal amount of time talking it up

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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:41 AM
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37. This is the only approach
that will work.
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:02 PM
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21. I bet if Obama threatened to bring our troops home
NOW if they didn't back the jobs bill the GOP would do so. Not likely I know.
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rtracey Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:23 PM
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22. cut their federal funds
I believe President Obama should cut all highway and federal roads funds to every House and Senators state that voted against rebuilding failing roads and bridges, and give it to the House and Senators that did.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:30 AM
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33. And what gives Obama the power to do that?
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:59 PM
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23. The do-nothing Republican Congress
We don't need no stinking infrastructure.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:43 PM
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24. They are such a bunch of monsters.
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RickFromMN Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:04 PM
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25. President Obama wants a second term! Let's hope his own self interest forces him to fight back.

Let's hope President Obama rials the Republican's constituencies enough to scare the Republicans.
Let's hope President Obama learns he needs to be a leader, capable of using the bully pulpit.
Let's hope President Obama learns we don't want Presidents that cave at the first sign of resistance.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 02:01 AM
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28. Let's See
A bill that doesn't even go to a Committee, let alone get brought up for a vote in the House has been killed by Boehner's single vote. Now the House is even more broken than the Senate where bills are killed by 41-59 votes. What kind of nation have we become when such undemocratic rules are in place.

Since Boehner is now rejecting every single proposal from President Obama so he needs to step forward with his own plans, send them to Committee for hearings then send them to a floor for a vote. That won't happen because CBO would have to score them and the bills would be vetted in public. We all know what happened following Paul Ryan's budget resolution. The evil Boehner is establishing himself as the worst Speaker ever.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:38 AM
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36. his plan is the same plan that got us into this mess
the repugs keep talking about deregulation, when they've done enough damage with deregulation under little boots. Remember Little boots stating that the corporations can police themselves? I mean they do such a bang up job policing themselves. Every time a corporation polices themselves, thousands are harmed. The repugs plan is to let any global corporation have a play day in america-with american workers as their cheap slave toys and the land as their playground. All they care about is profit and power, they do not care about communities, families or people. People are just assets or liabilities. So, why would we trust a bunch of greedy sociopaths with the keys to the country?

And, I think the american people have been trickled on enough. They trickle on us, then con us and after they do it, then we get to pay to bail them out. They've got a great scam going on the "sheep."
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 03:07 PM
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38. What is wrong with these stoooopid MFs
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:37 PM
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46. they are just protecting their super-rich puppetmasters, who are making them super-rich, too
so move along, this is just business as usual
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 05:46 PM
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40. Yawn.
I don't know why this is in Latest Breaking News, when it belongs in the not-yet-implemented "no fucking shit" forum along with everything else the Republicans kill.

The only bill the Republicans are going to accept is one that's 100 percent tax cuts and deregulation. I know! Let's eliminate the Capital Gains Tax--that should create millions of jobs as the rich get out of their high-taxed investments (read: businesses that employ workers) and move their money 100 percent into securities, precious metals and other things whose profits are classified as capital gains rather than business profits or wages.

Let me ask a valid question: is there one Republican in the entire country who understands the difference between macroeconomics and microeconomics?
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