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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:08 PM
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Court: Ordinance restricting day laborers' speech unconstitutional
Source: CNN

Los Angeles (CNN) -- The U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down as unconstitutional an ordinance in a southern California town that prevented day laborers on public sidewalks from soliciting work from passing drivers.

"Because the ordinance is not narrowly tailored to achieve the city's goals, it is facially unconstitutional," the court said in a 9-2 decision.

The Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, MALDEF, called the decision "precedent-setting."

It affirmed a trial court's decision favoring the day laborer group Comite de Jornaleros in its lawsuit against the city of Redondo Beach.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/09/16/california.day.laborers.ruling/index.html
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:23 PM
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1. Good to see a win for working people.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:47 PM
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2. Dont cheer to much, I'm sure they are working to get around it and will
even resort to the slightest infraction of law say and they will then learn by 'accident' if someone is illegally here and then use the excuse that they dont have constitutional rights and just arrest them.
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:06 AM
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3. Nah
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:20 AM
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4. Few things are better than a liberal court decision. What will Phony Tony do with this, though?
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:20 AM
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5. "Facially unconstitutional"??? - That's the first I've ever heard that
phrase. I guess in this brave new world we inhabit there is no further need for copy editors and proof readers.

Prima facie?

Factually?

Facially????

WTF???
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:30 AM
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6. I took it to mean unconstitutional "on its face"
I wonder what DU's legal eagles think about it. I doubt it's the first time that term has been used by a court.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:34 AM
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7. Jesus, if that's the language the Court used in its decision (and not
some ill-educated reporter's flub), the judges need to take a refresher course in grammar and usage, imho.

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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:37 AM
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8. It's a term of art. The law, like any discipline, has its own vernacular.
Learn it before you say something stupid next time.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:41 AM
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11. +1
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:41 AM
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10. No - it is a legal term of art. It has a specific, legal meaning which
is clear to anyone dealing with it in a legal setting. Not a question of grammar and/or useage.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:15 AM
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14. OK. Still sounded like fingernails scraping down a chalkboard to
me, probably because it verges on a mixed metaphor, i.e., a constitution does not have a face.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:39 AM
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9. "Facially unconstitutional" is a legal term, which means that the law, on its face does not
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 07:39 AM by COLGATE4
pass Constitutional muster. It is the opposite of "Unconstitutional as applied" (more often the case) where a simple reading of what the law says does not allow you to say if it's constitutional or not - you have to see evidence of how the law is being applied to determine its constitutionality.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:17 AM
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12. Thank you and Hosnon for that legal perspective
:patriot:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:47 AM
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13. So it basically means "this is unconstitutional from the basic wording on down"? (nt)
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