Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

British tourist kidnapped in Kenya

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:55 AM
Original message
British tourist kidnapped in Kenya
Source: UPI

NAIROBI, Kenya, Sept. 16 (UPI) -- A British tourist abducted in Kenya is likely being held by the Islamic fundamentalist militia al-Shabaab, the Somali government says.

However, while Somali Defense Minister Hussein Arab Issa said Judith Tebbutt was spirited across the Kenyan border into Somalia by al-Shabaab gunmen, the government in Mogadishu has not ruled out the possibility other groups are holding the 56-year-old tourist, the BBC reported Friday.

Tebbutt was kidnapped from a remote Kenyan resort at Kiwayu Sunday and her 58-year-old husband David was shot to death.

The British network said both the Somali government and U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron said they were doing everything possible to gain her release.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2011/09/16/British-tourist-kidnapped-in-Kenya/UPI-91341316185540/?spt=hs&or=tn



Also a longer feature on the issue here: http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/travellers-be-warned-20110916-1ke4s.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 12:10 PM
Response to Original message
1. I can't imagine.
One moment you're lounging around in a beachside cabana in a supposedly "safe" country, and the next moment someone is putting a gun to your head in the name of "God".

Hopefully they can rescue that poor woman, but the fact that they executed her husband on sight doesn't bode well for her safe return.

And, lest anyone think they were tempting fate: They were vacationing on an island in a Kenyan nature park more than 40 miles from the border.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. There are places I wouldn't go in this world--Africa's one of them. Mexico.
Anywhere in the Middle East. In a different time, certainly, but not now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Now there's a broad brush. Most, if not all, of Africa and Mexico are safe to travel.
Millions of folks go about their business every day, both residents and visitors, with little fear. Trekking on the border of Iraq? No. Spending time in Nuevo Laredo Mexico? No. But I wouldn't be sailing off the horn of Africa where there are Somali pirates. Folks have to use good judgment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Everyone has their comfort zone, I guess. I have no desire to travel
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 01:13 PM by TwilightGardener
to parts of the world that see a lot of unrest, civil war, anti-western sentiment, etc. Even though certain countries and regions are safer than others in Africa and the ME, if I get my once in a lifetime trip overseas, it's not going to be where the general security situation is unreliable. Wouldn't go to Mexico now either. Even Sunset magazine is weighing in on whether tourists should go there at all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. sunset magazine? really? in 2011?
might i respectfully suggest that one of the rewards of age is that we no longer have to be so conservative as we did when young

yes, when i was 20, i would hesitate to fly off to get involved in anything that looked dangerous, if you get your happy ass killed you've lost 60 years of life maybe and much of them potentially healthy, vibrant, productive years

but at my age, hell with it, i'm going to go where i like and if i die, so be it, there is FAR more risk of rotting away
on machines or in a nursing home, destroying my family's financial security, if i'm stupid enough to play it "safe" in my older years...makes no sense

maybe sunset magazine is still produced and put forward in nursing homes, for i don't think i've seen it in decades, and they have an interest in keeping people alive

for me, quality of life is more important, and when you reach an age where you can take risk without regret, it's time to seize the opportunity

if you don't see the world when you're older when will you see it? while it's terrible what happened to this couple they were in their 50s and they saw the world, i've rather go out as the husband did, than to go out the way my relatives with alzheimer's did

oh, and mexico is a BIG place, that's as stupid ass as saying old people shouldn't go to florida or texas, and we all know that old people are routinely robbed and killed in those states too, when you're old and vulnerable, and there's a crime problem, it can happen ANYWHERE not just mexico and africa!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Great perspective. Old age is when to risk it all.
With only a decade or two before either dementia or physical ailments rob us of the chance, we should see the places we really want to see. With that in mind, I've stopped worrying about the risks of foreign travel and have gone to some pretty amazing and strange places. And never regretted it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. I want to see it all while I can. I have traveled all over Kenya and never felt unsafe.
Kenyans are some of the nicest people in the world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. curious to know where this poster lives that a nature resort in kenya seems unsafe
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 08:21 PM by pitohui
i'm guessing the murder/kidnap rate in her home town is much higher than the murder/kidnap rate in lamu, kenya, considering ONE guy is killed and one lady kidnapped in the kenyan resort and it's considered world news

murder/kidnap (but mostly just plain rape, rampage and murder, for kidnap is too much like work) happens every day down here in new orleans

the murder violent crime rate in j'burg south africa is actually impressive but a remote resort in kenya? something happens bad ONE TIME and you can't go there? to the entire continent of africa??? really? never mind travel, how can you stay at home, the murder rate in most usa cities and towns has to be beating this!!!

ridiculous

there's no city in the southern united states that you could visit

i say travel where you like and just use street smarts

at the end of the day, this couple did nothing wrong, they just won the reverse lottery and worrying about it happening to the average tourist in kenya seems ridiculous to me
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Do reconsider Africa. My trip to South Africa was the greatest.
You have to be careful of crime in Johannesburg, but seeing the wildlife in the African bush is a spectacular experience.

I'm sorry that so much of the Middle East has become off limits to tourists. I will always be glad I saw Libya's Leptis Magnus back when the country was still considered safe for tourists.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. One of my favorite profs was offered a position at U of Baghdad awhile back...
She was considering accepting it - she was a Roman specialist with a big interest in the Near East, and liked studying the former through the lens of the latter - but then the Iran-Iraq war broke out and there wasn't really an opportunity to even consider visiting since then.

She'd always been kind of sad about that and I can't say I blame her. Whole lot of opportunities lost in that part of the world for such a long time now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. and kenya's natural treasures are impressive as well
ridiculous to punish an entire people and an entire industry for the actions of those who are not, apparently, even kenyans but instead outside terrorists trying to destroy kenya's tourism and future


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mattvermont Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #2
10. Lamu is a fantastic place
I spent time there in the late 80's....things were no different then with respect to Somali bandits. Had to have armed guards on our bus when traveling in northern Kenya.
Better than rotting in front of the TV, as I am doing right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 01:11 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC