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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:05 PM
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Venezuelan FM reasserts support to Carlos the Jackal
Source: El Universal

Venezuelan Minister of Foreign Affairs Nicolás Maduro promised on Wednesday to continue supporting "from the human point of view" Venezuelan terrorist Ilich Ramírez Sánchez. "Carlos," better known as "the Jackal," is serving a sentence to life imprisonment in France.

"From the human point of view, we will continue giving that support," Maduro said in an interview with state-run TV channel Venezolana de Televisión (VTV), Efe quoted.

Upon a proposal from Sánchez Ramírez's brother, Vladimir, to launch a campaign such as the Cuban lobby for five agents imprisoned in the United States, the Foreign Minister reported that they "keep in touch to back Ilich as a Venezuelan."

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Ramírez Sánchez, captured in Sudan in 1994, serves in France a sentence to life imprisonment for three attacks in 1982 and 1983 resulting in 11 people dead and 190 injured.


Read more: http://www.eluniversal.com/2011/09/14/venezuelan-fm-reasserts-support-to-carlos-the-jackal.shtml
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:24 PM
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1. Charming.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:35 PM
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2. Right, because the correct answer is for a government to abandon its citizens
held in foreign prisons, right?

lol

What the article says is that the FM was approached to start a world wide campaign to free him and the FM demurred, offering only to support him as a citizen who deserves humane treatment.

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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 05:03 PM
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4. had to leave out one paragraph, and what do you think of this article?
"He has undergone very difficult circumstances in France," he reasoned.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/chavez-praises-carlos-the-jackal-1825135.html

Hugo Chavez has defended the alleged terrorist mastermind Carlos the Jackal, saying the Venezuelan imprisoned in France was an important "revolutionary fighter" who supported the cause of the Palestinians.

The Venezuelan president praised Carlos — whose real name is Ilich Sanchez Ramirez — during a speech last night, saying: "I defend him. It doesn't matter to me what they say tomorrow in Europe."

Ramirez gained international notoriety during the 1970s and 80s as the alleged mastermind of a series of bombings, killings and hostage dramas. He is serving a life sentence in France for the 1975 murders of two French secret agents and an alleged informant.

"They accuse him of being a terrorist, but Carlos really was a revolutionary fighter," Chavez said during a televised speech to socialist politicians from various countries, who applauded.



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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 05:06 PM
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5. There is zero news value in either.
This is LBN, after all.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 05:09 PM
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6. todays breaking news is a continuation of a policy it would seem n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 06:54 PM
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8. Chavez is wrong. He should have just called him a diplomat like Obama did.
of Raymond Davis.

"If our diplomats are in another country, then they are not subject to that country''s local prosecution. We respect it with respect to diplomats who are here. We expect Pakistan, that''s a signatory should recognize Mr Davis as a diplomat, to abide by the same convention," Obama said in response to a question.

http://news.in.msn.com/international/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4925241
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 07:22 PM
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9. was Carlos the Jackal a diplomat?? I didn't know that. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 09:37 PM
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10. But you do know that Raymond Davis was no diplomat, right?
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 11:08 PM
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11. so Davis and Carlos are the same??
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 12:17 AM
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12. Yes, the hypocrisy is hilarious, I agree. nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 11:37 AM
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16. you're right.
you are hysterical.
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 12:32 AM
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18. No, they're two different people. But both murderers.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 12:50 AM
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22. One was a mass murderer.
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 01:08 AM
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23. Davis' resume (includes Blackwater, another private security firm, military, CIA) says he was too.
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 01:11 AM by DrunkenBoat
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 11:29 AM
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14. Davis was an agent of the US government.
So the Jackal worked for the Venezuelan government?
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 12:34 AM
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20. He was a private contractor with the CIA. Not a "diplomat".
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 12:36 AM by DrunkenBoat
The same breed of cat as "Carlos".
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:11 AM
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24. He worked for the US government assigned to a consulate
international law does not make the distinction you want to make.
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 12:37 PM
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26. No. He didn't.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:20 PM
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27. From your link
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 04:20 PM by hack89
Although the U.S. government contended that he was protected by diplomatic immunity because of his employment with the U.S. Consulate in Lahore,...

and

A major focus of the incident was the U.S.'s assertion that Davis was protected under the principle of diplomatic immunity due to his role as an "administrative and technical official" attached to the Lahore consulate
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 12:33 AM
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19. Was ray davis a diplomat? Soldier, Mercenary, CIA.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 11:36 AM
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15. wow, dear. that's some twisted defense.
so even if Chavez is wrong, it can be defended by another wrong. Pathetic. just pathetic.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 12:46 AM
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21. Modus operandi.
X does bad thing Y. US does bad thing Y too. No position taken.
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:02 PM
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28. excellent point
Ramírez Sánchez worked as a contractor for Syrian intelligence and was supported by intelligence services of several Eastern European states. He is only in prison somebody made a deal with Sudan, pretty much like somebody else made a deal with Pakistan, to the reverse effect.

There may be one significant difference between him and Raymond Davis, though. We don't know if the latter has political motives rather than just being in it for the money.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 06:22 PM
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7. "whatever it takes". nt
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:40 PM
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3. Hahaha. TG's little brother rears his head.
Is this some form of Terret's Syndrome?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 01:04 AM
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13. Wonder what'll happen if Chavez is kicked out...
...by the electorate come next Oct.
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:06 AM
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25. he steps down and they get a new president, fairly obvious methinks n/t
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 11:38 AM
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17. Must be another mistranslation
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